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adammclean Member ![]()
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Can anyone translate this short sentence from an engraving in a work of Basil Valentine ? [Sun] [Moon] und [Mars] mit [Jupiter] Tagen [Saturn] muss die garne fragen Stellt [Mercury] recht dem Wind. So wirdt gefangen Fraw [Venus] Kindt. Attached Image (viewed 3633 times): |
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Paul Ferguson Member ![]()
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adammclean wrote:Can anyone translate this short sentence from an engraving in a work of Basil Valentine ? I read it as a hunting analogy, thus: [Sun] [Moon] und [Mars] mit [Jupiter] Jagen [Saturn] muss die garne tragen Stellt [Mercury] nach recht dem Windt So wirdt gefangen Fraw [Venus] Kindt. My very rough first effort: The Sun, the Moon and Mars are hunting with Jupiter, Saturn must drag the snares. If Mercury heads straight towards the wind So will Lady Venus's child be caught. |
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Alexander Guthrie Stewart Member
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The three black animals look like dogs to me, and the brown ones in the middle look like hares. Any symbolism with that or does it just re-inforce the hunting poetry? |
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Paul Ferguson Member ![]()
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Alexander Guthrie Stewart wrote:The three black animals look like dogs to me, and the brown ones in the middle look like hares. Any symbolism with that or does it just re-inforce the hunting poetry? Quite a lot on the three hares motif on the web, see here: http://www.threehares.net/ "The theory of the Ancients that the hare was hermaphroditic and could procreate without a mate led to the belief that it could give birth to young without loss of virginity." Significant in an alchemical context? Also in Wiki, with an interesting distribution map: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_hares And here, under 'Widecombe in the Moor'. http://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/bshm/zingaz/W.html Radio interview with Dr. Tom Greeves: http://cropfm.at/past_shows.htm Interesting French blog: http://trois-lievres.skyrock.com/ Attached Image (viewed 1726 times): Last edited on Wed Jun 2nd, 2010 01:14 pm by Paul Ferguson |
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Alexander Guthrie Stewart Member
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I don't know much about late 16th/ 17th century alchemy, but I wonder if the hare symbolism would be a relic from the days when they said all you needed was mercury to make the elixir. |
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Johann Plattner Member ![]()
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Here's slighty a different translation: Sonne] [Mond] und [Mars] mit [Jupiter] jagen] [Saturn] muß die Garne tragen] stellt [Merkur] recht nach dem Wind] so wirdt gefangen Frau [Venus] Kind.] [Sun] [Moon] and [Mars] are hunting with [Jupiter] [Saturn] has to carry the yarns put [Mercury] rightly to the wind thus is caught lady [Venus] child |
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Carl Lavoie Member
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