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Alchemy Academy archive April 2001 Back to alchemy academy archives. Subject: ACADEMY : Basil Valentine From: Penny Bayer Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2001 Dear Michael Srigley This may be a complete red herring, but I was struck by the word "Haligraphia" in your message. I have come across the word "Haligraphia" apparently used as a pseudonym for someone in the circle of Joseph du Chesne and a woman called Madame de la Martinville , whom I am studying in my thesis on women alchemists. In British Library: Sloane MS 693, which are part of the papers of Theodore de Mayerne, what appears to be a circle of people interested in alchemy are named. The pseudonymous names are: Neptis (who I link to Madame de la Martinville), Bathodius, Maurice, Beaurardeau, Philippon, Senex Genevens, Druida, Haligraphia, Basilius. Later, someone called Trogny is mentioned. This manuscript also contains letters which elsewhere are attributed to Madame de la Martinville writing to Joseph du Chesne: here they are attributed to Neptis and the Druid. This manuscript also contains recipes using vitriol. I therefore just wondered if JOD might have a connection to Joseph du Chesne, who was alive in 1607. Not conclusive evidence, but I thought it worth passing on. Best regards, Penny Bayer Subject: ACADEMY : Question about German manuscript Date: Tue, 03 Apr 200 From: Matthias Miller Hi and good morning, I am a librarian from Germany, at this time cataloging manuscripts from the library of the Palatine dukes of Heidelberg (Bibliotheca Palatina, the best known item of this library is perhaps the Manesse Codex). At the moment I am working with a small manuscript, written about 1570 with alchemical recipes, one of them in form of a poem. I would like to ask the E-mail group, if anybody knows this poem and can tell me something about the author. The beginning of the poem is: Processus vom [alchemical symbols of Mercury for Quicksilver, Saturne for Lead and a third one looking like the symbol for Scorpio]. Saturnum disen Calcinir/ Mit Vsofur, den distillir,/ Ein wasser, von der stuckhen drei/ Salpeter das dritt, Manu das erst sei,/ Den Witriolum Inn der Mitt/ darnach soltu vergessen nit/ den alaun mitten brich entzwei/ Rot polum gleich dem Einerlei... The end: ...Vnnd den macht bestenndig Comact vnnd fix/ Der bedarff nach Gott khheins anndern glückhs. It would be fine, if somebody could help me. Matthias Miller M.A. Universitätsbibliothek Heidelberg - Handschriftenabteilung - DFG-Projekt Codices Palatini germanici Subject: ACADEMY : St. Germain - Triangular books From: Victoria Gevoian Date: 12 April 2001 There are two triangular shaped books written by the Count St. Germain. These were originally owned by Manly P. Hall, and are now in the Getty Centre in Los Angeles. I would like to know if anyone here is familiar with these manuscripts. Manly Palmer Hall [P.R.S.] MS. 209. 31 folios. Parchment. Triangular. 210 x 244 x 244mm. [Comte St. Germain] 'No. Soixante & Seize'. De la collection maconnique du F : illustre F : Antoine Louis Moret fondateur, et Véné honoraire de la R : ... La Sincerite No. 122. Ex president du Souv : Chap : la Triple union Or : maitre, Elu, chevalier commandeur, patriarch, Prince & Govr : Prince des tous les ordres macon : et des tous les Rites : Francais, Ecossais, Anglais, irelandais, Prussiens, &c. &c. &c. Govr : G : insp : Gene : du 33e degre S : P : D : E : Or : de : New York Etats unis L'am : du Nord 5810. Ex Dono Sapientissimi Comitis St. Germain Qui Orbem Terrarum Per Cucurrit. [Blue and gold ink on various leaves of ruled parchment. Text in cypher with three magical illustrations in gilt and several other colours of ink.] Manly Palmer Hall [P.R.S.] MS. 210. 24 folios. Parchment. Triangular 237 x 237 x 235mm. [Comte St. Germain.] Ex Dono Sapientissimi Comitis St. Germain Qui Orbem Terrarum Per Cucurrit. Subject: ACADEMY : The "mirror" in alchemical writings From: Stefan Alexe Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 Dear forum members, Does anyone have some bibliographical information about the use of a mirror / more mirrors in the alchemical work (16th and 17th century)? Thank you and best regards. S. Alexe Subject: ACADEMY : Alchemical manuscript by Philip duke of Burgundy From: José Rodríguez Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 Dear all: I'm reading an alchemical manuscript in the National Library of Madrid entitled "Toque de Alquimia" (in english: "Touch-stone of alchemy"). It is a tract attributed to an Irish writer called Richard Stanihurst (1547-1618). This work was dedicated to Philip II, King of Spain. Stanihurst says that rumors circulated in the towns of Flanders about the alchemical influences in the foundation of the Order of the Golden Fleece (1430) and, at the same time, he mentions an alchemical manuscript signed by Philip the Good, duke of Burgundy (1396-1467). I have no references about alchemical works atributed to Philip the Good and Stanihurst does not transcribe title, incipit, sentences... He only says he found the manuscript in Paris, in the "Royal Library". What about Philip the Good and alchemy? Does anyone have an information on Philip's alchemical tracts? Any suggestions or references regarding these questions will be very much welcomed. José Rodríguez Subject: ACADEMY : The "mirror" in alchemical writings Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 From: John Friedman There is a lot of material on the use of mirrors for purposes of false magic in Nicole Oresme's work on divination and also in William of Auvergne's or of Paris' De Universo of which there is a Minerva facsimile available on Inter Library Loan. I would think this would be applicable to alchemy too. John Friedman Subject: ACADEMY : The "mirror" in alchemical writings From: Stefan Alexe Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 Dear John Friedman , Thank you for your answer! Is it the Nicole Oresme with: La theorie de la monnaie au 14e siecle. Nicole Oresme. Etude d' histoire des doctrines et des faits economiques. - Paris, V.Giard & E. Briere 1906. Die mathematischen Schriften des Nicole Oresme. (circa 1320-1382) Thorn 1870 ? Unfortunately I cannot connect to kvk - karlsruhe to get a full bibliography-list, so I found only these two entries. But besides magic, what texts describe the use of mirrors during the Process/ for preparing the Stone? Thank you and Happy Easter to all forum members! S. Alexe Subject: ACADEMY : The "mirror" in alchemical writings Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 From: John Friedman See Thorndike, History of Magic and Experimental science, Vol. III p. 433 and index under mirrors, magic. I can't lay hands on my notes right now but the original text is Oresme de configuratione qualitatum of which there is an English tr. in the Marshall Claggett series of Wisconsin translations.This is only about deception in magic with mirrors and does not describe alchemical processes however, in the Middle Ages, see my Medieval Iconography: A Research Guide, Garland, 1998 JF Subject: ACADEMY : The "mirror" in alchemical writings From: José Rodríguez Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 Stefan, There are some references in: - URSZULA SZULAKOWSKA, (2000), "The Alchemy of Light. Geometry and Optics in Late Renaissance Alchemical Illustration", Brill Academic Publishers, Leiden. You should read all the book, but specially the third chapter: "The Influence of Medieval Optics on Renaissance Alchemy", pp. 29-40. José Rodríguez Subject: ACADEMY : The "mirror" in alchemical writings From: José Rodríguez Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 Stefan, There are some references in: - URSZULA SZULAKOWSKA, (2000), "The Alchemy of Light. Geometry and Optics in Late Renaissance Alchemical Illustration", Brill Academic Publishers, Leiden. You should read all the book, but specially the third chapter: "The Influence of Medieval Optics on Renaissance Alchemy", pp. 29-40. José Rodríguez Subject: ACADEMY : The "mirror" in alchemical writings From: Mike Dickman Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 Have a look at Libavius' 'Alchymia' (Frankfurt, 1606) where illustrations include the use of both mirrors and magnifying lenses. m Subject: ACADEMY : Hermetische Gesellschaft Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 From: C-M Edenborg Has anyone on the list viewed the manuscripts from the so-called "Hermetische Gesellschaft", active in Germany around 1800? The letters and tracts are according to Antoine Faivre still in Giessen, but I haven't got the exact location. Carl-Michael Edenborg Subject: ACADEMY : The "mirror" in alchemical writings Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 From: Michael Srigley Dear Stefan, The subject of mirrors in alchemical work came up in the Academy correspondence in 2000-11-08-15. Martha Baldwin in 'Alchemy and the Society of Jesus in the Seventeenth: Strange Bedfellows' in AMBIX, vol. 40, Part 2, July, 1993, 41-64, discusses Athanasius Kircher's use of solar energy in alchemy (51), and has two engravings of solar mirrors in action (figs.1 and 4). Best Wishes, Michael Subject: ACADEMY : Le Pilote de l'onde vive From: Adam McLean Date: 24 Apr 2001 Can anyone provide bibliographical information on the book by Mathurin E. de Martineau 'Le Pilote de l'onde vive' ? I assume this is 18th century. Unfortunately I do not seem to have access to a copy here in Glasgow. Best wishes, Adam McLean Subject: ACADEMY : Le Pilote de londe vive Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 From: Pierre Stibia Dear Adam, You can now download this text from http://www.multimania.com/hermetisme/pilote/lepilote.htm This site is full of very interesting texts concerning Alchemy and other topics. I have very little infomation about this text. I think you'll find detailed bibliographical information from Bernard Roger who published this text during the 70's in the "Bibliotheca Hermetica" by Retz-Denoël. Best regards to all Joel "Pierre Stibia" Subject: ACADEMY : Le Pilote de l'onde vive From: Sean Brooks Date: 24 Apr 2001 Title: La pilote de l'onde vive ou le secret du flux et reflux de la mer. Author: Eyquem, Mathurin. Publication: Paris Year: 1678 Title: Le pilote de l'onde vive, ou, Le secret du flux et reflux de la mer ... Avec un voyage abrege des Indes, et une explication de la quadrature de cercle. Author: Eyquem de Martineau, M. Publication: Paris, L. d'Houry, Edition: Seconde édition revenue & augmentée de deux traitez ... sur la philosophie naturelle. [By M. Eyquem de Maritneau.] Year: 1689 Description: 221 p. p., 8vo. Sean Brooks Subject: ACADEMY : Le Pilote de londe vive From: Stanislas Klossowski de Rola Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 Dear Adam, I happen to own a copy of the first edition of this interesting work: LE PILOTE DE L'ONDE VIVE OU LE SECRET DU FLUX ET REFLUX DE LA MER; Contenat xxj. Mouvemens; ET DU POINT FIXE. D'un Voyage abregé des Indes,& de la Quadrature du Cercle, composez sur les Principes de la Nature; nouvellement découverts, & mis en lumiere, Par MATHURIN EYQUEM SR DU MARTINEAU, Bourdelois, PHILOSOPHIE NATURELLE A PARIS Chez JEAN DH'OURY, sur le Quay des Augustins, à l'image Saint Jean, Et chez l'Auteur, rue neuve Saint Mederic, à l'Enseigne de la Ville de Calais. M.DC. LXXVIII AVEC PRIVILEGE DU ROY, Titlepage, blank verso AVERTISSEMENT DE L'AUTHEUR AU LECTEUR 9 pages on verso of 9 NOM DES CARACTERES contenus dans les FIGURES du Flux & du reflux de la Mer, et de la Quadrature du Cercle, & des Vents.These two figures are to be found the first on page 22, the second on p.209). The Privilege was granted on January 6th 1678. The book was registered sur le Livre de la Communauté des Libraires & Imprimeurs de Paris on April 21 1678 and the FIRST PRINTING took place June 3 1678. On p. 221 below the word FIN, one reads the following inscription : "Les Exemplaires seront cottez & paraphez par l'Autheur, pour éviter l'alteration & la fraude." i.e. The copies shall be numbered and signed by the author to avoid alterations and fraud. And indeed my own copy bears on the titlepage the author's signature and the number 975. Should you need more information I could try to find the time to translate the A9 pages of the Avertissement au lecteur which summarises the contents. All the very best Stanislas Klossowski de Rola Subject: ACADEMY : Le Pilote de londe vive From: José Rodríguez Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 Dear Adam: I have no information about scholary works concerning "Le Pilote de l'onde vive ". I think there are no critical editions and that is a problem. I send you some references that I found the last year: ------ First edition (rare copy)------ Author: Mathurin Eyquem Du Martineau. Title: Pilote de l'onde vive ou le secret du flux et reflux de la Mer et du Point-fixe par Mathurin Eyquem, sr du Martineau. Date: 1678. Editor: none. City: none. Physical description: 221 pp. in-12°. Holding Library: Grenoble, Bibliothèque Municipale (fonds CGA), cote: E.21117 ------ First edition (standard copy)------ Author: Mathurin Eyquem Du Martineau. Title: Le Pilote de l'onde vive, ou le Secret du flux et reflux de la mer, contenant XXI mouvements, et du point fixe, d'un voyage abrégé des Indes et de la quadrature du cercle, composez sur les principes de la nature, nouvellement découverts et mis en lumière par Mathurin Eyquem, Sr Du Martineau,... Philosophie naturelle. Date: 1678 (3 June). Editor: Chez Jean Dhoury et chez l'Autheur. City: Paris. Physical description: (1-1bl-14-)221(-3bl) p. -2 fig. gr. par Landry, in-12°, 149 mm. ------ Second edition ------ Author: Mathurin Eyquem du Martineau. Title: Pilote de l'onde vive, ou le secret du flux et reflux de la mer, contenant XXI mouvemens, et du point fixe, etc. par Mathurin Eyquem, du Martineau Langue. Subtitle: Seconde edition revue et augmentée de Deux traitez nouveaux sur la philosophie naturelle, contenant le Tombeau de Sémiramis, et la réfulation de l'anonyme Pantaléon, soy disant disciple d'Hermès Date: 1689 Editor: J. d'Houry City: Paris. Physical description: in 12° Mathurin wrote another book on french coats of arms: Author: Mathurin Eyquem du Martineau. Title: Les Noms, Surnoms, qualites, armes et Blasons des Cheualiers de lordre du Sainct esprit Crees par Louis quatorzie. du nom Roy de France et de Nauarre. A Paris. Dans L'eglise des augustins le Premier Jour de lan 1662. Langue Français Publication (1662), S. l., s. n. Description titre gr. et 78 f. anopisthographes n. ch. n. s. -2° , 334 mm. Exemplaire 1 Cote et fonds Rés 108355, CGA Date: 1662. Editor: none. City: none. Physical description: title gr. and 78 folios. n. ch. n. s. -2° , 334 mm. Holding Library: Lyon, Bibliothèque Municipale (fonds CGA), cote: Rés 108355. In that book he said: "Mathurin Eyquem, Seigneur du Martineau, bourdelois [men of Bordeaux]". José Rodríguez |