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Alchemy Academy archive April 2005 Back to alchemy academy archives. Subject: ACADEMY: Claude d'Ygé From: Jean-Yves Artero Date: 1 Apr 2005 Hi Gleb, Perhaps you would like to know that besides his two main books: - Anthologie de la poésie hermétique and - Nouvelle assemblée des philosophes chymiques, Claude d'Ygé, as he is best known, or more completely, Claude Lablatinière d'Ygé (1912-1964) wrote several articles in reviews, mainly in Initiation et Science. Please find here attached the cover of one of the issues of the latter, with a picture of C. d'Ygé: http://www.alchemywebsite.com/images/initiat.jpg INITIATION & SCIENCE n° 63 - juillet 1965 - 20ème année Revue de recherches des lois inconnues en couverture : Claude d'Ygé DE LABLATINIERE Friendly yours, Jean Subject: ACADEMY: Claude d'Ygé From: Joël Tetard Date: 1 Apr 2005 According to Mr. Eugène Canseliet in "Le Feu du Soleil" (written by Robert Amadou from interviews with M. Canseliet and published in 1978, by Pauvert, Paris, ISBN2.7202.0088.3), Claude Lablatinière d'Ygé was not an active Alchemist, i.e.working "by the fire". However, M. Canseliet had an excellent opinion of his written work which remains in "the best and the most healthy tradition" ("dans la meilleure et la plus sainte tradition"). Mr. Canseliet wrote two forewords to Claude d'Ygé's "Anthology de la poésie hermétique" (1947 and 1976 by Dervy Livres, Paris, ISBN 2-85076-031-5) and "Nouvelle Assemblée des Philosophes chymiques - Aperçus sur le Grand Oeuvre des Alchimistes" (published in 1954 and1972 by Dervy Livres, Paris). A French literary society called Les Amants de la Licorne (The Lovers of the Unicorn) was said to be founded by Claude d'Ygé see http://meleph.free.fr/alchemy.htm but I have no information on this topic. Best regards. Joël Tetard "Pierre Stibia" Subject: ACADEMY: Claude d'Ygé From: Gleb Butuzov Date: 3 Apr 2005 Dear Joël, Thank you very much for the information. I know this and a couple of other short articles on the web. Actually, the editor is looking for something regarding his connections with the group of Naglowski, and some more details on Les Amants de la Licorne if available. Thanks again, Gleb Butuzov. Subject: ACADEMY: Filia Fientes From: Eric Giegerich Date: 3 Apr 2005 Dear Alchemy Academy, Does anyone know of a tradition or text in which the words "filia fientes" are paired, or recognize "ff" as a symbol representing "filia fientes" (or anything else)? I have only found the terms together in the Turba Philosophorum, but not paired. Kind regards, Eric Giegerich Subject: ACADEMY: Filia Fientes From: Adam McLean Date: 4 Apr 2005 Does "filia fientes" make sense in Latin ? Filia "daughter" probably does not make much sense if we read "fientes" as manure or dung, following the French. I cannot find a word form corresponding to "fientes" in the Lewis and Short, Latin dictionary. Perhaps "fientes" is incorrect and a misreading of the long "s" form as an "f". Thus it could be "scientis". Then we have something meaningful - "daughter of the science". If we stick with reading "fientes" then "filia" should perhaps be "fila", plural of "filum" - thread, which can mean "remnants". Then we have something meaningful, fila fientes - "remnants of the manure" Or am I missing something ? Adam McLean Subject: ACADEMY: Filia Fientes From: Stanislas Klossowski de Rola Date: 4 Apr 2005 What you read as ff are SS. Stanislas Klossowski de Rola Subject: ACADEMY: Study Day on Alchemy in Egypt From: Daniel Burnham Date: 6 Apr 2005 The Egyptian Educational & Cultural Bureau 4 Chesterfield Gardens, London W1J 5BG Tel: 020 7491 7720 Fax: 020 7408 1335 Email: egypt.culture@btconnect.com A STUDY DAY: ALCHEMY & PHILOSOPHY IN EGYPT ACROSS THE AGES SATURDAY 7 MAY 2005, 10 am-5 pm Chaired by Professor Charles Burnett & Dr Okasha El Daly The culture of Ancient Egypt has been a source of inspiration and wisdom for thousands of years. Yet in the minds of many of us there is a major break between its distant past and its present. This study day is part of a series that seeks to redress this imbalance and to restore a balanced perception of Egypt and its various philosophical, alchemical, and artistic traditions. Our study day will benefit from a handling session of relevant ancient Egyptian objects from the collection of the Petrie Museum of Egyptian Archaeology, University College London. TIME TABLE 10: 00~~ Coffee and registration 10: 15~~ First lecture, questions and discussion 11: 15~~ Coffee break 11: 30~~~ Second lecture, questions and discussion 12: 45~~~ Break for lunch 14: 00~~ Third lecture, questions and discussion 15: 00~~~ Coffee break 15: 30~~~ Fourth lecture, questions and discussion 16: 30~~~ General discussion and summing up. (Lunch and beverages are included) SPEAKERS The first lecture, given by Terence DuQuesne, will be "Ladder to the sky: alchemy in pharaonic Egypt." Alchemy refers to the techniques of manipulating and compounding natural substances, especially minerals, in order to obtain new compounds for various purposes. Alchemical methods also provide a metaphor for the transformation of the human personality to higher planes. The word 'alchemy' itself may be derived from Kmt, the ancient name for Egypt. It is likely that the philosophy which underlies the practice of alchemy was developed in pharaonic Egypt. Evidence for the Egyptians' understanding of the concept of alchemy is found as early as the Pyramid Texts. The second lecture, by Kasia Szpakowska, considers "Dreams and the Fiery Serpent". It will explore transformative elements of dreams, and their counterparts, nightmares, in ancient Egypt. The discussion will focus on the presentation of deities in dreams, and the impact which they had on non-royal individuals of the New Kingdom who were exalted by their divine visions. At the other end of the spectrum, the Egyptians feared the assault of the dead and demons who appeared in nightmares. To protect themselves, Egyptians used apotropaic fiery serpents of clay - a material which itself is formed of earth and water and then transmuted by fire - as a potent defence against these disturbing visions. Through both text and artefact the complex relationships and transformative nature of clay, fire, serpents, and dreams are examined. The third lecture will be given by Charles Burnett and discusses "The Ancient Egyptian Roots of the Hermetic Traditions". Hermes Trismegistos from Egypt contended with Hermes the Persian as the two greatest authorities on alchemical and astrological laws in the Arabic world, and consequently in Medieval Europe. In this lecture the Hermetic tradition will be traced back to its roots (or its supposed roots) in ancient Egypt, with analysis of~ texts in Arabic, Greek, and Latin. The fourth lecture, by Okasha El Daly, addresses Alchemy, Sufism and hieroglyphs: Dhu Al-Nun the Egyptian. Most Moslem alchemists were described as Sufis and they almost always had a keen interest in Egyptian hieroglyphs. They were fascinated by ancient Egyptian imagery, and their model was the famous 9th century Egyptian alchemist and Sufi, Dhu Al-Nun Al-Misri of Akhmim (Panopolis) in Upper Egypt. This lecture explores the ancient Egyptian origins of the philosophy of this Sufi master, who may be seen as a bridge between ancient Egypt and the Sufi tradition of Islam. Subject: ACADEMY: Azogue e-journal's Book of the Year From: José Rodríguez Guerrero Date: 8 Apr 2005 Dear Colleagues, The e-journal "Azogue" offers since 1998 the Book of the Year Award for the best publication in the history of alchemy. It does not include a monetary reward. The prize is designed especially to define standards for people learning in history of alchemy and related fields. The book selected could be a model for students and new researchers. It will be aiming to a better and more positive interpretation of alchemy as historical subject. It is clear that a statement of basic criteria for adequacy will be helpful. The study of alchemy, hermeticism, rosacrucianism, paracelsism, etc., had now become part of academic research. 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ISSN: 1575-8184 URL: http://www.revistaazogue.com e-mail: revista_azogue@hotmail.com Subject: ACADEMY: The idea that metals grew from a seed From: Adam McLean Date: 15 Apr 2005 Can anyone help me identify the main alchemical writers that articulated the idea that metals grew from a seed in the earth ? Is there any clear indication when this idea first emerged ? Thank you, Adam McLean Subject: ACADEMY: The idea that metals grew from a seed From: Carlos Soren Date: 16 Apr 2005 In chapter four of "The Forge and the Crucible" Mircea Eliade presents a lucid discussion of the lithic mythology concerning the generation of stones and ores in earth's bowels. This may be a good departing point. From what I can gather, the concept of metallic ores being born, growing and decaying, i.e., the biological explanation of ore genesis, may go back to pre-literate societies. See also Joseph Needham, Science and Civilisation in China, Volume V:2. I hope this is of some help. Regards Carlos Subject: ACADEMY: The idea that metals grew from a seed From: Gleb Butuzov Date: 16 Apr 2005 Adam, I thought about it, and, frankly speaking, I cannot say who among alchemical authors was the first to mention this explicitly; however, to my mind, Avicenna's "Book of Remedy" implicitly contains this idea. As you know, despite Avicenna shared Jabir's conception of sulphur-mercury composition of metals, he believed that when changing their balance an alchemist can influence the properties of metal only partly, and there's no way to change the "species" of metal, which implies the existance of some "kernel" or "seed" inherent to every particular metal, that cannot be modified. Best regards, Gleb. Subject: ACADEMY: The idea that metals grew from a seed From: Jean-Yves Artero Date: 17 Apr 2005 I think that the idea that metals grew from a seed is present in President D'Espagnet's Enchiridion: http://www.rexresearch.com/alchemy/espagnet.htm Here is an extract: "The name Fire is Equivocal amongst Philosophers; for sometimes it is used by Metonymy for heat; and so there be as many fires as heats. In the Generation of Metals and Vegetables Nature acknowledgeth a Three-fold Fire; to wit, Celestial, Terrestrial and Innate. The First flows from Sol as its Fountain into the Bosom of the Earth; it stirreth up Fumes, or Mercurial and Sulphurous vapours, of which the Metals are created, and mixeth itself amongst them; it stirreth up that torpid fire which is placed in the seeds of Vegetables, and addeth fresh sparks unto it, as a spur to vegetation. The Second lurketh in the bowels of the Earth, by the Impulse and action whereof the Subterraneous vapours are driven upwards as through pores and pipes, and thrusts outwards from the Centre towards the surface of the Earth, both for the composition of Metals, where the Earth swelleth up, as also for the production of Vegetables, by putrefying their seeds, by softening and preparing them for generation. The third Fire, viz., Innate is also indeed Solar; it is generated of a vapid smoke of Metals, and also being infused with the monthly provision grows together with the humid matter, and is retained as in a Prison; or more truly, as form is conjoined with the mixed body; it firmly inhereth in the seeds of Vegetables, until being solicited by the point of its Father's rays it be called out, then Motion intrinsically moveth and informeth the matter, and becomes the Moulder and Dispenser of the whole Mixture. In the generation of Animals, Celestial Fire doth insensibly co-operate with the Animal, for it is the first Agent in Nature; for the heat of the female answereth to Terrestrial Fire; when the Seed putrefies, this warmth prepareth it. For truly the Fire is implanted in the Seed; then the Son of Sol disposeth of the matter, and being disposed, he informeth it. " Otherwise there is at least another reference available, in Paracelsus' Alchemical catechism: http://www.rexresearch.com/alchemy2/paracate.htm "Q. Where does the metallic nature store her seeds? A. In the four elements. Q. With what materials can the philosopher alone accomplish anything? A. With the germ of the given matter; this is its elixir or quintessence, more precious by far, and more useful, to the artist, than is Nature herself. Before the philosopher has extracted the seed, or germ, Nature, in his behalf, will be ready to perform her duty. Q. What is the germ, or seed, of any substance? A. It is the most subtle and perfect decoction and digestion of the substance itself; or, rather, it is the Balm of Sulphur, which is identical with the Radical Moisture of Metals. Q. By what is this seed, or germ, engendered? A. By the four elements, subject to the will of the Supreme Being, and through the direct intervention of the imagination of Nature. " Best regards, Jean Subject: ACADEMY: The idea that metals grew from a seed From: Clarence Wallace Date: 17 Apr 2005 Michael Scot assisted in translating Aristotle into Latin. Aristotle believed that metals grew in the ground like plants only much slower. Some first century chinese alchemists referred to gold as growing from the ground and it was referred to in Arabic writings that may have been translated during this same time period. Thomas Aquinas in the Summa Theologica (referred to plants fixed to the earth as are stones and metals) and depending on the translation and interpretation the inference to metals growing from the earth may be found. Newton and Paracelcus made reference to metals as growing from the earth. I'll try and find specific cites for you in the near future. Clarence Wallace Subject: ACADEMY: The idea that metals grew from a seed From: Ahmad Y. al-Hassan Date: 17 Apr 2005 There is an Arabic book on alchemy on growing gold. It was published and translated into English by E.J. Holmyard in 1923. The title is: Kitâb al-'ilm al-muktasab fî zirâ'at adh-dhahab (Book of Knowledge acquired concerning the cultivation of gold) by Abu 'l-Qâsim Muh. b. Ahmad al-'Irâqî who lived in the 13th century. I do not think that al-'Iraqi originated the idea, and most probably it goes back to earlier alchemists. Ahmad Y. al-Hassan Subject: ACADEMY: The idea that metals grew from a seed From: Shannon Grimes Date: 17 Apr 2005 Lawrence Principe and William Newman have identified this interpretation of metallic growth from seeds (and/or that all metals eventually "grow" into gold) as a problem in the historiography of alchemy, claiming that this theory was influenced by Levy-Bruhl's influential writings on so-called primitive mentalities. They actually attribute this "panpsychic" interpretation of alchemy to Helene Metzger, an early 20th century historian of chemistry who also happened to be Levy-Bruhl's niece. See L. Principe and W. Newman, "Some Problems with the Historiography of Alchemy," in Secrets of Nature: Astrology and Alchemy in Early Modern Europe, ed. W. Newman and A. Grafton. Cambridge, MA: The MIT Press, 2001. I'd just like to add that in my studies of Greco-Egyptian alchemical literature, I have found no evidence for the belief that metals grow from seeds in the earth. There are instances of seed and embryo imagery in these texts, but these are clearly intended in a metaphorical sense (often to designate the raw materials being worked on, or "grown" in the vessel), and as not literal interpretations of how metals form in the earth. I think many a scholar has taken this imagery too literally. Regards, Shannon Grimes Subject: ACADEMY: The idea that metals grew from a seed From: Shannon Grimes Date: 17 Apr 2005 Clarence, You mentioned Michael Scot's translation of Aristotle: I am not familar with this translation, but Aristotle clearly distinguished between the generation of metals and the generation of plants. He claims that metals are formed due to vaporous exhalations being compressed within the earth (see Meteorology 3, 378a 14-378b 4), whereas he specifically notes that plants grow from seeds, which are generated from male and female plants (see Plants 1, 817a-817b). Both "grow" in the earth, but in quite different ways. Aristotle makes no mention of metallic "seeds." Shannon Grimes Subject: ACADEMY: The idea that metals grew from a seed From: Rafal Prinke Date: 18 Apr 2005 Dear Adam, >Can anyone help me identify the main alchemical writers that articulated the idea that metals grew from a seed in the earth ? A book by Hiro Hirai on this topic has just been published: http://www.brepols.net/catalogue/index.jsp?mpk=20295&art=606104 with a table of contents on his website: http://www.livinghistory.co.uk/homepages/hermes/hirai2.htm He also wrote a number of articles on the same - and even more exactly "seeds" as (sometimes) opposed or complementary to "semen". Concerning the article by Lawrence Principe and William Newman which Shannon Grimes mentioned, I understand they are not so much opposed to the "growth" concept as to the modern interpretations of alchemy as a whole, without taking its diachronic nature into account. If I remember correctly, they say that some alchemists adopted a hylozoic view of nature, while others where of more mechanical persuation. Besides, it is also a problem (which I think they touched upon, too) of our unescapable presentist attitude - as the notion of "growth" and "life" is not necessarily the same. So when modern chemists talk about "growing crystals from a seed", are they using the same metaphoric language as the alchemists did or are both "discourses" quite different in semantic content? I think that is what Principle and Newman criticized - the traditional interpretation that alchemists "really meant it" while modern chemists "just use a metaphor". And they show that at least in a number of cases it wasn't so - and alchemists where quite conscious that their language was one of similes and other figures. Best regards, Rafal Subject: ACADEMY: Hermann Stockinger's book From: Rafal Prinke Date: 18 Apr 2005 Dear Academy, Some time ago I asked about opinions on a new book: STOCKINGER, HERMANN E., Die hermetisch-esoterische Tradition unter besonderer Berücksichtigung der Einflüsse auf das Denken Johann Christian Edelmanns (1698-1767) Hildesheim 2004. I now see that the new issue of _Aries_ has a review of it. Can anyone who has seen it tell me what it (the review) says? How well alchemy is treated there? Best regards, Rafal Subject: ACADEMY: The idea that metals grew from a seed From: Adam McLean Date: 18 Apr 2005 Thank you all for the various views regarding the alchemical theory of the growth of metals from a seed. My question arose from my working on editing an English translation of Michael Maier's 'Viatorium'. This book is a survey of the seven planetary metals, their properties, their ores and their medicinal uses. It is obvious that Maier accepts a view he holds as commonplace, that metals grow in the Earth over a long period, and he sees one of the ways of approaching alchemical transmutation to somehow find a means of speeding up this process. The idea that metals grew in the Earth from metallic seeds was a common idea in the 17th century, and what I was wondering was when this idea first emerged especially in European alchemy. Roger Bacon and most of the early alchemists seem to incline more to the Sulphur-Mercury theory. Norton at one point in his 'Ordinall' written in 1477, explicitly states that metals, unlike plants, do not have seeds. He puts up the theory of the growth of metals in the earth only to shoot it down. He is obviously attacking a view he had read that ran counter to his own theories. So there may have been some writer who articulated the 'seeds of metals' idea, probably in the 15th century. This idea was printed in Nazari's 'Three Dreams' in the mid 16th century, so it will predate Nazari. Regarding the Principe/Newman article on the errors in the historiography of alchemy, they are referring to the modern theories about alchemy, not to the apparance of this idea or alchemical theory in the 15th/16th/17th centuries. I am not so sure that alchemists were just using this idea as an allegory. Anyone who has any knowledge of mining knows that metals ores are rarely found in large masses or in strata or seams as is coal. Instead metals ores appear in mines as sinuous veins, running through surrounding rock. This is explained nowadays by geologists who say that most metal deposits arose from the upward eruption from deep in the earth of metal salts carried in superheated water. This is why these veins can appear almost like organic structures. Also different metals were in the same mix and these often separated for physical chemical reasons. So a vein of ore might have good rich copper at one end and poorer quality copper further down the vein. The miners of the 15th and 16th centuries were well aware of this, and they saw that the metal sometimes changed along the length of a vein. These observations were taken up by some alchemists and they theorised about metal growing in the earth. The pure copper growing from a less pure ore further down the vein. I myself experienced this just a few weeks ago when I visited a (now closed) lead mine near to where I live in Scotland. The guide showed us the way the miners had followed a vein of galena (lead sulphide ore) into the hillside. At one point the vein had branched but the miners had quickly abandoned one of the branches. As the guide explained this part of the ore vein was rich in manganese from which it was difficult to smelt out the lead. Maier and the other alchemists of that time were basing their theory on actual observations by miners. For its time, the theory that metals grew in the mines in the earth, was an entirely sensible one. Adam McLean Subject: ACADEMY: The idea that metals grew from a seed From: Gleb Butuzov Date: 19 Apr 2005 Shannon Grimes wrote: > You mentioned Michael Scot's translation of Aristotle: I am not >familar with this translation, but Aristotle clearly distinguished >between the generation of metals and the generation of plants. This is absolutely correct. I thought we were speaking about the SEED of metal, not just a mixture of vapours, weren't we? Concerning chinese alchemy: a similar idea, of course, is present there, and dates back to II c. B.C. as far as I remember. I can give an exact reference, if necessary, but, again, I thought we were talking about hermeticism. Best regards, Gleb Butuzov Subject: ACADEMY: The idea that metals grew from a seed From: José Rodríguez Guerrero Date: 20 Apr 2005 Dear Adam, I think Sendivogius' Novum lumen chymicum (see: De Lapide Philosophorum Tractatus duodecim, chapters 4 to 9) was the main 17th century text that articulated the idea that metals grew from a sole seed (or semen) in the earth. I think it should be Maier's source. Moreover, Novum Lumen was based upon the metaphysical system that Petrus Severinus constructed around 'semina' as the natural element that provides a most satisfactory account of change and continuity. See: - JOLE SHACKELFORD, (2004), "A Philosophical Path for Paracelsian Medicine. The ideas, intellectual context and influence of Petrus Severinus 1540-1602", Museum Tusculanum Press, Copenhagen, pp. 17-19, 44-45, 160-194, 232-247, 268-278, 304-316. ----------- I have read the past messages regarding this question and I would like to send two complementary notes: 1. - The sulphur-mercury doctrine is not jabirian but pre-jabirian. I think the first reference appears in an infuential work entitled 'Kitâb sirr al-halîqa' (9th century). Both are defined as 'viscous waters' or oils with a common 'radix' called 'elemental water'. Sulphur is described as an '...oil from the water surface...' and mercury as an '...oil fitted into the water'. 'Sirr' never uses the word 'seeds'. It explains the first body or substance of metals is gold (an equilibrated sulphur-mercury composition). So the perfect metallic form (gold) appears at the first moment as Pinella Travaglia explains: "...la tesi sostenuta, sia nel testo arabo sia nel latino e che tutti i minerali alla origine della loro formatione sono oro (il corpu di tutti i metali e oro, dice il testo arabo). Dopo che si e formato il loro corpo aureo, sopraggiungono nei minerali gli accidenti che, mutando l'equilibrio originario, li rendono diversi [...] L'oro e, dunque, l'origine, la materia dei minerali, ma questi successivamente se ne allontanano...". You can see that gold is the substratum or basis to which all the metals belong and not the end of a growing process. This idea had spread in many philosophical and alchemical work during the Arabic and Latin Middle Ages. It was discussed in Abertus Magnus's 'Book of Minerals' (trad. D. Wickoff, Oxford, pp. 171-174). See: - PINELLA TRAVAGLIA, (2001), "Una Cosmologia ermetica. Il Kitâb sirr al-halîqa / De secretis naturae", Liguori Editori, Napoli, pp. 100-105. 2 - I think the formation of metals was described as a 'congelatio' or 'solidificatio' from two exhalations (or earth-water elements; "hybrid elements" (hêmigenê stoicheia) as Olympiodorus said) in the main alchemical literature produced during the Late Antiquity and Early Middle Ages. Cold seems to be the active agent in the generation of metals in the earth (we can find this idea in the platonic Timeo 59b) while heat was the agent in the generation of plants (seeds) or animals (embryo). I think we can find terms of growing but are rare forms. There is a hightly recommended book on this question: - C. VIANO (ed.), "Aristoteles chemicus", Academia Verlag, Sankt Augustin. There are contributions concerning Aristotle, Plato, Alexander of Aphrodisias, Olympiodorus, Ibn al Bitrîq, Ibn Ishâq, Jâbir, Ibn Umail, the Encyclopedia of the Ihwân al-Safâ, [ps-]Ramon Lull, Pietro Bono. Regards, José Rodríguez Guerrero Subject: ACADEMY: Origins of spagyric alchemy From: Adam McLean Date: 25 Apr 2005 I was recently wondering about the evolution of spagyric alchemy. Now it is commonplace to say that this originated with Paracelsus, but are there any sources before him in which the idea of the spagyric process was clearly expressed ? I am only looking for sources before Paracelsus. Are there any articles or chapters of books I should consult to find out more about this ? Adam McLean Subject: ACADEMY: John Dee and Alchemy colloquium From: Adam McLean Date: 28 Apr 2005 JOHN DEE AND ALCHEMY: a one-day colloquium organised by Dr Stephen Clucas for the Society of the History of Alchemy and Chemistry. Birkbeck, University of London, 30 Russell Square, London, WC1E 7HX. 10.45am start. SPEAKERS: Nicholas H. Clulee, 'The Alchemical significance of John Dee's Monas Hieroglyphica' Hilde Norrgren, 'John Dee and Johannes Panetheus's Voarchadumia' Peter J. Forshaw, 'The alchemical reception of John Dee in the seventeenth century' Penny Bayer, 'Lady Margaret Clifford's alchemical receipt book and the John Dee Circle'. If you would like to register please contact Dr Anna Simmons (A.E.Simmons@open.ac.uk) Subject: ACADEMY: John Dee and Alchemy colloquium From: Adam McLean Date: 28 Apr 2005 My apologies, I missed out the date of the Colloquium It is Saturday May 28th. Birkbeck, University of London, 30 Russell Square, London, WC1E 7HX. 10.45am start. |