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Alchemy Academy archive November 2000 Back to alchemy academy archives. Subject: ACADEMY : Christopher Taylour Date: Wed, 01 Nov 2000 From: Lauren Kassell Dear Penny (and everyone else), I've always wondered who the 'lady' was. I'm afraid I can't remember why I thought they were associated -- it's something that I've not worked on properly. My notes are brief, but at some point I thought that there was evidence of an association between Thomas Robson (alias Feltcher) and Taylour -- based on MS Ashmole 1492, item 9. Robson was an associate of Napier's. I might be wrong about this. Sorry to be so vague. Your work on Taylour sounds very interesting -- I'm afraid I won't be able to make it to the seminar in December, but I'd love to see a copy of the paper. All the best, Lauren Subject: ACADEMY : Keren Happuch From: Susanna Ĺkerman Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2000 Also recall the double meaning of Keren, horn and ray. This is why Moses is depicted by Michelangelo in Rome and in Trinity College, Cambridge and other such sculptures with two small horns, since when he came down from Sinai the Bible says that rays (Keren) shone from his head. Susanna Subject: ACADEMY : Christopher Taylour From: Penny Bayer Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2000 Dear Lauren and Academy, I had a look at Black's catalogue: he thinks Thomas Robson wrote the title onto a piece by Christopher Taylour in Ashmole MS 1492. Black also refers to MS 1447 in which he has catalogued other pieces attributed to Christopher Taylour as collected by "the Napiers". This could suggest that Thomas Robson and the Napiers thought Christopher Taylour's work was worth collecting and keeping. I'll send you a copy of the paper after I've given it, in late December. Best regards Penny Bayer Subject: ACADEMY : Le Livre des Laveures From: Gleb Butuzov Date: Sun, 05 Nov 2000 Dear forum members, Does anyone have bibliographical information about some strange author mentioned in Flamel's "Le Livre des Laveures" (chapter called "Pouqui est faite imbibition"): "... et pour ce dit Fledus au livre de la secrčte compagnie... " Thank you and best regards. Gleb. Subject: ACADEMY : The Monas' Readership Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 From: Michael Srigley Dear Friends, Many thanks for an interesting series of contributions on the Monas Readership. In connection with this it is worth recalling that in his peregrinations throughout Europe from late 1583 onwards, Dee was in Cassel in 1586 and again in March 1589. On June 27, 1589, he met Heinrick Khunrath at Bremen. Between his two visits to Cassel, Dee was in Denmark, and may well have visited Tycho Brahe at his observatory, Uraniborg, on the island of Hven. In a letter from Uraniborg to Caspar Peucer, professor of astronomy at Wittenberg, written on September 13, 1587, Tycho Brahe informed him that certain enclosed letters, once read, "were to be sent on immediately to D. John â Dee, whom indeed we shall be meeting early tomorrow, God willing, before his departure" ('Hae literae lectae mittantur statim ad D. Ioannem â Dee, quem cras mane ante abitum, Deo volente, conviemus'; 'Tychonis Brahe Dani Opera Omnia', VII, 141).In the same letter, Tycho mentions 'the noble and most erudite Daniel Rogers', Elizabeth's emissary to the Danish Court, "who was recently with me." Rogers, a key figure in the Sidney circle, friend (and kinsman) of Ortelius, Plantin and Buchanan, was probably in Denmark in connection with the forthcoming marriage of James VI of Scotland to Anne of Denmark. In 1590 James spent several days with Brahe inspecting Uraniborg. Other Englishmen or Scots mentioned in Brahe's correspondence are Thomas Savile (who planned to visit Uraniborg), mathematician, Thomas Digges, mathematician and colleague of Dee, George Buchanan. I am now exploring the Brahe-Dee connection and believe that it remained of importance on into the reign of James I (VI of Scotland). Michael Srigley Subject: ACADEMY : 'Zweytes Silentium Dei' Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 From: Michael Srigley Can anyone help me with a matter related to my previous message? In a curious book written by Willy Schrödter, entitled 'A Rosicrucian Notebook: The Secret Sciences Used by Members of the Order' (Yorke Beach, Maine: Samuel Weiser, 1992), the following information is given about a manuscript dated 1599 describing the use of solar energy in an alchemical laboratory. Schrödter cites Karl Kiesewetter (1854-1895): "Even theologians were members of the Rosicrucians; men like Johann Arndt (1555-1621), the famous author of the Wahre Christentum (1609) who, in 1599, wrote a Rosicrucian work entitled 'Zweytes Silentium De'i which I have in my possession. The preparation of the Lapis Philosophorum [Philosopher's Stone] without artificial fire, but only by the heat of the sun concentrated by an arrangement of concave mirrors, is taught in this manuscript". Is this plausible? It is known that Arndt's major interest in his student days before he devoted himself to theology was alchemy. His friend and disciple, Johan Gerhard, wrote that in his youth Arndt devoted himself to a study of the writings of Paracelsus and Valentin Weigel. This led to the writing of his 'Iconographia' in 1597, and to an inclusion in the third book of 'Wahre Christentum' of Paracelsus's ideas on the interaction of the heavens and earth and on the Book of Nature. John Ferguson lists an alchemical work by Arndt entitled 'Judicium, uber die vier Figuren des Grosses Amphitheatri Henrici Khunraths'. He states on the authority of Gmelin that, "like Boehme, [Arndt] was not an alchemist but only used the language and imagery of the alchemists for his mysticism", but this seems contradicted by the fact that Arndt first studied Paracelsian medicine which would have involved laboratory work. Can anyone throw light on this ms. 'Zweytes Silentium Dei'? Michael Srigley Subject: ACADEMY : 'Zweytes Silentium Dei' From: Chris Pickering Date: 9 Nov 2000 Hello Michael As far as Dee and Brahe go, are you aware of the work of Jardine, Rosen, and Gingerich and Westman which places Dee in the circle of courtly astronomers of Europe, concentrated around Emperor Rudolf and the Landgrave of Hesse-Cassel and also including Brahe ? This circle was quietly working on copernican heliocentricity, paving the way for its acceptance; and its polemic, the Tycho-Ursus controversy, is said to have given birth to the history and philosophy of science as a subject in itself. Sherman, in his excellent study of Dee, places this circle alongside the angel magic as a question that needs to be answered in order to understand Dees escapades in the 1580s. It must surely be a necessary stop for anyone trying to bridge the gap between Dee in the 1580s and the rosicrucians in the 1610s. Incidentally, Brahes observatory/laboratory has been put forward as an example of one form, in comparison with the that of Libavius, in a study of alchemical laboratories. Are you aware of this work ? I believe it is part of the modern development of the study of methods of study ! As far as 'Zweytes Silentium Dei' is concerned, check out Adams list of the Mellon collection for a MS copy. It is curious that you mention both Dee and this work on the use of the sun in alchemy. Monas hieroglyphica mentions something similar as one of the rare and powerful arts which is encompassed by Dees hieroglyph. I quote Josten p131:- "And the optician will confound the stupidity of his art: he had worked in all manner of ways to shape a mirror into the parabolic line of a (suitably rotated) conical section, so as to attack any matter (liable to fire) with that incredible heat from the rays of the Sun; yet here a line is revealed as resulting from a trigonal section of the tetrahedron after whose shape, when rendered three-dimensional, a mirror may be formed which (even when the clouds are before the Sun ) can reduce any stones or any metal to, as it were, impalpable powders by the force of (truly the very strongest) heat". Dees "De speculis comburentibus" survives as Cotton Vit C VII art 5, but I have not seen it. It is obvious that Dee is not talking about the infra red which we think of as solar energy and which has been known of since humans first stood under the summer sun. He is refering to the astrological influences which the alchemist steers into matter to perfect the philosophers stone. I do not think the role of this in Monas Hieroglyphica is appreciated at all. It is a continuation of the more explicit exposition in Propaedeumata Aphoristica six years earlier. I can't remember exactly what I have come across to help explain this passage in Dee - it is all buried in my notes. But I do know that this solar mirror is one of the many many stories of wonders which abounded in medieval and renaissance optics. I don't think it had occured to me before, but perhaps this 'wonder' was also to be found in the paracelsist tradition. Paracelsism certainly dwells heavily on the interaction between astral spirit and the elemental realm. To me, Monas Hieroglyphica is (among other things) a paracelsist thesis, be it a very particular or personal one; and it is probably largely through paracelsism that Dee came to influence the rosicrucians. Chris Pickering Subject: ACADEMY : 'Zweytes Silentium Dei' From: Stanislas Klossowski de Rola Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 Dear Michael, Ms 136, in the Mellon collection, is a late 18th century copy of Arndt's "Zweytes Silentium Dei in des Konigs Salomonis des Weisen paradiessischen Lustgarten" dated 18-25 December 1798. The text begins in Latin on fol. 5 : " ARCANA DIVINA sev distincta et succincta Descriptio non solum Lapidis Philosophorum sed omnium totius Naturae Arcanorum, decerpta ex propriis Manuscriptis Theophrasti Paracelsi, datis Schaffhausen ad Rhenum, die nona Martii 1555, ab eodem traditis Imperatori Maximiliano I," That is DIVINE SECRETS or distinct and succinct Description not only of The Philosopher's Stone but of all the Secrets of Nature excepted from the very Manuscripts of Theophrast Paracelsus dated Schaffhausen on the Rhine, on the 9th of March 1555 thence given to Emperor Maximilian I. The Prologue to this text dated 1599 was published in Paradisgartlein aller christlichen Tugeden, 1612 and later reprinted with a separate title page in, Vier Bucher vom wahren Christenhum, 133. On page 21 a full page illustration shows the sun in the upper right with rays passing through a central telescope on a stand tilted from upper right to lower left. The effected sunlight falls on three alchemical vessels on a table. Eight other vessels in the front foreground are sequentially affected. The progress of the solar energy is numbered carefully in eighteen stages. Similar illustrations occur on the next two pages. Dear Chris Pickering, I read with interest your communication on this subject but cannot find in Dee's Monas Hieroglyphica the passage you quote (unfortunately without reference from Josten. Could you please be more precise? Also your speculation concerning Dee and copernican heliocentricity is refuted by Dee's stance as stated in Theorem III. "Thus the central point that one sees at the center of the Hieroglyphick Monad refers to the Earth around which the Sun as well as the Moon and the other planets accomplish their course..." All the very best, Stanislas Klossowski de Rola Subject: ACADEMY : Dee's Monas Hieroglyphica From: Chris Pickering Date: Mon 13 Nov 2000 Dear Stanislas, The Monas reference is f6r of the 1564 edition. It is the Preface to Maximilian. After establishing the Arbor Raritatis, Dee attempts to place his hieroglyph in this scheme by explaining what it encompasses, including the optics of the passage I quoted. I would not call Dee a copernican. It is obvious from MH and elsewhere that he took up an earth centred cosmology along with many centuries worth of other ideas related to it. However, the truth about Dee and others who read Copernicus was probably a little more complicated. I don't think it would be too contentious to say that he appreciated Copernicus' work on astronomy and had a problem with the paradox of being unable to reject it off hand whilst also being unable to reconcile it with his own beliefs. I have not seen all of the evidence, and it would necessarily be scarce on such a heretical subject. It may be one of those questions that will never be fully answered. But it does open up questions about the dynamics of emerging exact sciences and age-old but more vague alchemy. Dees 'astronomia inferior' and 'astronomia superior' school of alchemy, which uses optics to apply heavenly forces to elemental matter, is a scientification [if there is such a word] of alchemy. It is unthinkable that Dee did not have some position on Copernicus, even if it was one of uncertainty. Personally, I think it is more accurate to say he had trouble accepting it rather than saying he rejected it. Chris Pickering Subject: ACADEMY : Humfrey Lock Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 From: Peter Grund Dear Members of the Alchemy Academy, I have been following your interesting discussions for a few months and I have greatly benefited from them. I am hoping that you may be able to throw further light on some issues that I have encountered in my research. I am preparing a text edition of a 16th century English treatise on alchemy (previously unedited to my knowledge) for my Ph.D. at the Department of English, Uppsala University. The treatise survives in at least 7 manuscript copies from the second half of the 16th century to the late 17th century. One copy, now found in MS Ashmole 1490, was made by Simon Forman in 1590. The treatise appears under different titles, e.g. "Ex Semita Recta Alberti Magni et Medulla Ripleyij", "The Hole Compound of Allchimya or Elixzeres of the Philosophres wrigtten by H. Lock". It is to a large extent a compilation of earlier, medieval sources. In four of the copies, the treatise is attributed to a Humfrey Lock (found in various spellings). In three of these copies, the treatise is preceded by an epistle in verse addressed to Lord Burghley. In the epistle, Lock complains that he has been wrongfully accused of being a traitor and exiled. However, he does not state where he is in exile. A marginal note found in some of the manuscripts states that Lock was in Russia and that he wrote the treatise as a gift to Burghley and Elizabeth to be allowed to return to England. The connection to Russia is further corroborated by letter evidence preserved in the Public Records Office. Lock seems to have been a builder, architect or engineer. He was sent to Russia in 1567-68 as part of a group of different "artificers" commissioned by Elizabeth on the request of Tsar Ivan Vassilovitch. In letters to Lord Robert Dudley (Earl of Leicester) and Lord Burghley in 1568 and 1572, Lock writes that he has been accused of being a traitor since he has found fault with the behaviour of the merchants of the Muscovy Company. He further writes that he wishes to return home to answer his accusers. So far I have found no information on Humfrey Lock after 1572. I would be very grateful if someone could throw further light on the identity of Humfrey Lock and his sojourn in Russia. I am especially interested in whether there are any Russian sources that mention him. All comments and suggestions are welcome. Best wishes, Peter Grund Subject: ACADEMY : 19th Century alchemy Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 From: Julia Grella I am new to the list. I'm a singer (mezzo-soprano) and the director of a chamber music ensemble called the Risorgimento Project, dedicated to bringing to light the forgotten repertoires of Italian nineteenth-century art song and chamber music. I am looking for information from anyone whose work might be focussed on the nineteenth century. There has been a good deal of work done on Baroque music and alchemy and the western esoteric tradition in general; the connection is fairly obvious -- the early opera composers, Monteverdi (who seems to have been a practicing alchemist) et al. were influenced by the Neo-Platonic notion that earthly music reflects the divine music, and has the ability to transform human nature. My work, however, is firmly focussed in the nineteenth century, and, while I suspect a connection between the music of this period and the alchemical tradition, there has been little scholarly work done on it. Many of the pieces I perform with the Risorgimento Project either reflect the culture of Italian unification or helped to stir up revolutionary sentiment, and the Italian liberationist movement seems to have been rooted in Masonic principles. In addition, my understanding is that Naples, a cultural center of the bel canto style in Italian music, had been also for some centuries a center of alchemical study in Europe. I have shown a piece my musicologist/pianist partner unearthed, the 1818 cantata "Calipso" by Michele Carafa, a Neapolitan composer, to a very learned opera conductor, and he pointed out "alchemical" tempo, time signature and metronome markings. Forgive me if my ideas are a bit untidy. I am starting research and have only my hunches as of yet. I am curious as to whether anyone on this list can point me toward sources on alchemy in Italy, alchemy during the Romantic era, or alchemy and music. Thank you and best wishes to all. Julia Grella www.risorgimento.org Subject: ACADEMY : Dee, Copernicanism, Digges From: Dusan Djordjevic Mileusnic Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 There's an interesting, rather scientific article on Thomas Digges, (previously mentioned on AlchAcademy), Copernicanism and John Dee, at http://socrates.philosophy.msstate.edu/pr/Faculty/papers/digges.html Hope it will be of some use to recent discussion. All the best Dusan Djordjevic Mileusnic Subject: ACADEMY : Solar energy in the alchemical laboratory From: José Rodríguez Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 Dear Michael Srigley and Chris Pickering. The use of solar energy in the alchemical experiments is one of the problems that some friends had tested in practical experiences a few years ago. I was really surprised when they exposed me to their opinions about the efects of the rays of the sun. I think it is a rare practical question and in the course of time I have been forgotten this subject becouse I have not got well-documented sources. If you are looking for extensive information about the use of light by some alchemists, especially Heinrich Khunrath, Michael Maier and Robert Fludd, you should check: - URSZULA SZULAKOWSKA, (2000), "The Alchemy of Light. Geometry and Optics in Late Renaissance Alchemical Illustration", Brill Academic Publishers, Leiden. This "well coagulated" study concerns the late Renaissance metaphysics of light in its adoption to a Paracelsian alchemical context by John Dee, Heinrich Khunrath, Michael Maier and Robert Fludd. Their alchemical theosophy is contextualised within the Protestant reformism of the 1590s to 1620s, specifically that of Valentin Weigel and Johannes Arndt. This results in a re-assessment of the Rosicrucian movement which challenges the existing historiography and problematises the character of the movement. The volume includes 50 illustrations from alchemical treatises of the period, the emphasis being placed on Khunrath's "Amphiteatrum Sapientiea Aeternae" (1595-1609). The study investigates these images using analytical tools drawn from semiotics, structuralism and post-structuralism. This method yields an interpretation of the geometry, optical diagrams and spatial structures employed in such alchemical engravings. Concerning Dee and the use of mirrors or light. John Dee had a great interest in catoptrics, as is demonstrated in Roberts and Watson's catalogue of his library which contains many Arabic and scholastic resources. Catoptrics was a branch of the science of optics initiated by the ancient Greeks and defined by Archimedes as the study of the refraction and reflection of light-rays by mirrors or prisms. In the medieval period, Roger Bacon, in particular, dispersed and popularised catoptrical science through his treatise "De speculis comburentibus". These optical theories were important for the development of Dee's astronomy, but there was one particular idea which may also have affected Dee's alchemy. Bacon had stated in "De multiplicatione specierum" (I, i) that every point on a luminous or coloured body sent forth the image of its visible qualities as "species" in a succession of "multiplications" which were transmitted through a medium such as light, or air, to the eye of the viewer. In 1556 Dee began to engage in the study of medieval optics, an interest recorded in his library catalogue which included Alhazen's works, Boethius's "Arithmetica", Nicolas Oresme's "Liberdivinatiorum", Witelo's "Perspectiva", Bacon's "Opus tertium", Grosseteste's "De luce, calore et frigide", Pecham's "Perspectiva Communis", three manuscripts of Alkindi's "De radiis stellarum" along with the works of many other optical theorists. The scholars Nicholas Clulee and Wayne Shumaker established that Dee also gained information concerning the properties of lenses and mirrors from Gogava's edition of Alhazen on catoptrics (included in his translation of "Ptolemy Opus quadripatitum", 1548). Urszula Szulakowska thinks that Gongava instructed Dee in the manufacture and use of astronomical and optical apparatus. Dee himself wrote a richly illustrated but unfinished tract on catoptrics (dated on 1558) which is found in British Library MS Cotton Vitellius C.VII, art. 5, "De Speculis comburentibus libri 5" (ff. 280r-309v). I the text he states briefly that his ideas were gathered from ancient philosophers (f. 280r). Dee's subject-matter concerns the Euclidean rules of optical conic sections, as well as the angles of incidence and refraction of light by mirrors, illustrated by several detailed drawings of light-rays reacting to a parabolic suface. You can find similar experiments with mirrors in the Oxford Bodleian Library MS Sloane 3854 which contains a section entitled "Experimenta in Speculo" (ff. 76r-80v). Dee's optical and astronomical treatise "Propaedeumata Aphoristica" explains that by means of optical instruments it was possible to collect the occult virtues of the stellar radiations, particularly recommending the use of catoptrics in the making of theurgical sigils. According to Dee, mirrors could imitate planetary influences, increasing and decreasing the intensity of their radiations catoptrically and imprinting their influences on matter. Sources: - PAMELA H. SMITH, (1994), "The Business of Alchemy", Princeton University Press, pp. 29-31. - NICHOLAS CLULEE, (1988), "John Dee's Natural Philosophy", Routledge, London, pp. 56-60 and pp. 260-265. - DAVID C. LINDBERG, (1976), "Theories of Vision from Al-Kindi to Kepler", Chicago University Press, pp. 107-116. - JOHN DEE, "John Dee on Astronomy, Propaedeumata Aphoristica (1558-1568)", University of California, Los Angeles, 1978, Introduction, Edition and Translation by Wayne Shumaker, pp 53-. Best wishes, José Rodríguez Subject: ACADEMY : 'Zweytes Silentium Dei' Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 From: Michael Srigley Dear Friends, Many thanks to Chris, Stanislas, Dusan and José for so generously sharing their knowledge with me. What seems to have emerged from this and previous recent discussions is that Dee was after all an important figure in what might be called occult exact science, and played a part in the emergence of the Roscicrucian movement, not as its leader or initiator, but as one important influencial figure out of several. As Chris points out, alchemy for Dee (and for Tycho Brahe) involved a coordination of heaven and earth by means of grounding astral energies in physical matter. It is probably for this reason that Dee also called his Monas the "London Seal of Hermes" in line with his statement in 'Propaedeumata Aphoristica' that the "impressions of celestial bodies on things in the lower world are ... like images on seals". This as he wrote could be achieved by catoptrics. The same idea was expressed by Brahe in the two wood-carvings over the main entrances of Uraniborg depicting the relationship between astronomy and alchemy with their respective mottoes, 'Suspiciendo, Despicio' and 'Despiciendo Suspicio' ('by looking up, I look down' and vice versa). The information given by Stanislas of Arndt's 'Zweytes Silentium Dei' in the Mellon Collection was invaluable. The main text goes back to the year 1555 and to Paracelsus, while Arndt's Prologue was written in 1599. The illustration of a telescope focussed on alchemical vessels may have been seen Andreae before 1605 when he wrote 'The Chymical Wedding' and if so it influenced him when he came to describe the final alchemical 'regeneratio' of the dead bodies in the uppermost part of the Tower of Olympus. This was achieved by means of a Trumpet or Tube directed at their mouths and, by the removal of a shutter in the dome, focussing in a cone the "bright stream of fire" that revived them. An impressive impression! I have not yet read Urszula Szulakowska's work recommended by José, and am grateful for this tip and for the others from all of you. Best Wishes, Michael Srigley Subject: ACADEMY : Alchemical manuscript in Cambridge Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 From: Catriona Mackay: Dear Academy, I am a graduate student working in the English Literature department of Cambridge University, and have recently started working on alchemy in the seventeenth century. I have found an intriguing manuscript in the university library - manuscript Gg.I.8 - and I hope that someone might be able to help me identify various bits of it. After 52 leaves of blank paper, there is a handwritten copy of Daniel Widdowes 1631 edition of 'Naturall Philosophy or A description of the world and of the severall Creatures therein contained'. Next there is an emblem of a creature with a serpent's body, wings, the head of a bald bearded man with wings for ears and winged human feet. Rising from his back on scaly stalks are symbols for the moon, the sun and mercury - mercury has two prongs protuding from in in a 'south-easterly' direction. (Many apologies by the way, that I as yet lack the language to describe these things properly.) It is annotated, in French as far as I can tell, and it is out-lined with pinpricks, showing that it was copied from somewhere. One of the library catalogues says either it or the next thing (it's unclear) is 'an ophite emblem'. The catalogue is very incorrect in other aspects of its description however, so I'm taking this with a pinch of salt. However, I'd be very interested to know (1) what an ophite emblem is and especially (2) whether anyone can help me identify the source of this picture. Next there is something astrological-looking labelled 'Angelorum opus Acthore Hermete Pho. perito'. I won't bother describing it in detail - I need to do more work on it myself. However, at the bottom is scribbled 'Liber magistri William Waldy' - does anyone know who William Waldy is? Stuck on the back of this is an emblem involving a furnace which seems to be drawn on very thin vellum. After this there is a sequence of about 70 alchemical emblems which using the wonderful http://www.levity.com/alchemy I have identified as being 'The Crowning of Nature'. I would really really really like any information anyone has at all about what 'The Crowning of Nature' is, as I hadn't heard of it before today. Finally, there is a second treatise, dealing with (mostly) practical alchemy, entitled 'Thesaurus Thesaurorum siue Medicina Auroa - A Manuscript concerning the Philosophers Elixir or their Medicine both for Humane and Metalline Bodies' and proclaiming itself to be 'Incertis Authoris'. I would love to know if this sounds at all familiar to anyone. ***** Most of all, I'd like to know whether this manuscript as a whole is known or written about anywhere, as I'm still in the process of fishing around for possible MPhil research topics. Apologies for the length of my query, and for my relative ignorance re. matters alchemical. Catriona Mackay Subject: ACADEMY : Alchemical manuscript in Cambridge Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 From: Adam McLean Dear Catriona Mackay, You asked about an image in the Cambridge manuscript >Next there is an emblem of a creature with a serpent's body, >wings, the head of a bald bearded man with wings for ears and >winged human feet. Rising from his back on scaly stalks are >symbols for the moon, the sun and mercury - mercury has two This would appeaer to be (from your description) a copy of one of woodcuts from an Italian allegorical work of the mid 16th century by Nazari. See my coloured version of this on my web page : http://www.levity.com/alchemy/amclglr9.html A068. Woodcut of triple-headed dragon from Giovanni Battista Nazari 'Il metamorfosi metallico', Brescia, 1564. I will try and answer some of the other questions in your message when I have time later this weekend. Adam McLean Subject: ACADEMY : 19th century alchemy From: Susanna Ĺkerman Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2000 A while ago, Julia Grella asked about nineteenth century music and alchemy. It seems as if there is very little work on alchemical practise in the nineteenth century before "the occult revival" in Paris and London at the end of the century (with Eric Satie as a Rosicrucian composer). The meagre reply to questions on alchemy in the early nineteenth century has been revealed before on the alchemy-academy and may reflect an interesting lacunae for people to work on. However, I just read Wouter Hanegraaff's article on the constructions of esoteric traditions in Antoine Faivre and Hanegraaff's "Western esotericism and the science of religion" Peeters, Leeuven, 1998 p. 14 where he cites Francoise Bonardel's Philosophie de l'alchimie: Grand ouevre et modernité, Paris 1993 and her article Alchemical Esotericism and the Hermeneutics of Culture in Antoine Faivre and Jacob Needleman: Modern esoteric spirituality New York, 1992. "She includes in her discussion of "alchemy" a wide range of poets and composers... who hardly would have described themselves as alchemists (such as Richard Wagner)." The point is here that while there may be a sense in which music is leading to transmutation of the participants of sorts, this is an extended use of the word alchemy. I suggest these readings since it might give some leads. Otherwise I recommend Joscelyn Godwin's sourcebook Music, Mysticism and Magic, Arkana, London, 1987 which has a host of texts on these connections by Romantic writers and composers and as well as texts by on the magical influence of music in Hermetic authors since Ficino. For alchemy in Naples Massimo Marra's recent book has been posted on the academy a while ago. Susanna Akerman Subject: ACADEMY : Humfrey Lock Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 From: Lauren Kassell Dear Peter Grund and everyone else, I spent a quite a while trying to identify Humfrey (or Henry) Lock in the initial stages of my work on Forman, though found frustratingly little. I do believe, however, that Deb Harkness (and forgive me if I'm wrong) has information about the Lock (or Lok) family in Elizabethan London. I would be very interested to know more about the relationship between the various copies of this text--at one stage I planned to compare the various versions of this and other MSS in the hope that such an exercise might reveal evidence about Forman's sources for the numerous MSS that he copied. He says very little about his friends and associates, and his successors say very little about him. All the best, Lauren Kassell Subject: ACADEMY : Alchemical manuscript in Cambridge Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 From: Lauren Kassell Dear Catriona Mackay, I do not know anything about this MS in particular, but as I expect you do not know one of my areas of research is on alchemy and medicine in early modern England, and I am also in Cambridge, in the history and philosophy of science department. I'd be happy to discuss your research, and you can reach me directly at Best, Lauren Subject: ACADEMY : 19th Century alchemy From: Massimo Marra Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 Dear Julia, An useful starting point could be this book: Cecilia Gatto Trocchi, Il Risorgimento Esoterico Milano 1996 Arnaldo Mondadori Editore ISBN 88-04-41815-X Cecilia Gatto Trocchi is an Italian antropologist (of Catholic ideas, I suspect) and her approach to the esoteric matter is very influenced by a positivist point of view. Furthermore, in the definition of "esoteric" Gatto Trocchi includes paranormal, spiritism etc. etc.. However, you could find some data contained in that book very interesting for your researches (chapter X: I sortilegi del Melodramma italiano). In addition to the works quoted by Susanna, I recommend: Joscelyn Godwin - Harmonies of Heaven and Earth. Mysticism in music from Antiquity to the avant-garde 1995 ed Inner Traditions International ISBN 0-89281-500-0 Bruno Cerchio - Il suono filosofale: musica e alchimia. Parma 1993 Libreria Musicale Italiana editrice ISBN 88-7096-079-X (in italian): Bruno Cerchio is a contemporary Italian musician; he is a very important scholar of Alchemy and Hermetic studies. About the relationship between hermetic tradition and music - especially in Ficino - a good starting point could be the very important work of P. D. Walker's: Spiritual and demonic Magic from Ficino to Campanella 1958 Warburg Institute, London Unfortunately, I have only the French edition (La magie spirituelle et angélique de Ficin ŕ Campanella - Saint Quentin 1988 ed. Albin Michel ISBN 2-226-03241-X). The first chapter is devoted to the magic music in Ficino's philosophy (De vita coelitus comparanda). The relationship between Alchemy and music is a very complicated question and it is very difficult to collect an extensive bibliography. Pitagoric (Pythagorean) and neoplatonic philosophy - I am thinking, for example, to Boetio's works - are very important influences in Medieval and Renaissance philosophy of music. By the way, I think that it should be interesting to point that Athanasius Kircher's works (especially the books IX-X of the Musurgia Universalis - Roma 1650) were greatly influenced by Fludd's philosophy. Music is the key of many cosmological and alchemical works by a lot of hermetists, from Fludd to Khunrath, and the relationship between music and alchemy starts with some alchemical Greek manuscripts! You have a very large and extensive field of studies! History of alchemy in Italy is a very complicated question. The only scholarly work devoted to the Italian alchemy is: G. Carbonelli - Sulle fonti storiche della chimica e dell'alchimia in Italia, Roma 1925 Serono There are no other extensive and general scolarly works about the history of Italian alchemy. In the Kingdom of Naples, during the XIXth century, there were a lot of masonic lodges. The most important was the Egyptian masonry (Ordine Osirideo), directly descending from the Egyptian masonry of Cagliostro and De Sangro (XVIIIth century - this particular form of Egyptian masonry is also called "nodo napoletano"). My book (Il pulicinella filosofo chimico - uomini e idee dell'alchimia a Napoli nel periodo del viceregno" Milano 2000, ed Mimesis, ISBN 88-87231-72-9) , explores the development of Neapolitan alchemy between the XVIth and XVIIth centuries. Other interesting works focused on particular areas or particular times. Actually, there is no general introduction to the history of Italian alchemy. If you have some question about Southern Italy alchemy you may contact Adam; he will give you my e-mail address. I hope this suggestions will be useful for your researches. Best wishes. Massimo Marra Subject: ACADEMY : Alchemical manuscript in Cambridge From: Mike Dickman Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 Catriona, 'Ophite' is cognate with 'ophidian' - 'Member of the Ophidia class of reptiles, especially snakes, modern Latin from the Greek ophis = snake, ' (says my trusty old OED)... 'Ophite', (Latin from the Greek ophites from ophis) according to the same source, means 'serpentine' and - by extension - 'serpentine marble'. m Subject: ACADEMY : The Monas' Readership Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 From: Michael Srigley Dear Friends, I have come across further evidence of John Dee's far-flung influence in that learned study, Sten Lindroth's 500-page 'Paracelismen i Sverige till 1600-Talets Mitt' (Uppsala, 1943). ( A great pity it has not been translated). In his long account of the Swedish hermeticist and Rosicrucian author,Johannes Bureus, he mentions (111, n.2) that Bureus was acquainted with Dee's 'Monas Hieroglyphica', and cites Bureus's 'Cabbalistica' (MS 24 in the collections of 'Linköpings stifts- och landsbibliotek', N 24, fol. 60v), quoting from it Dee's words from the 'Monas' "Ista est via, per quam Nostra Monas, per Binarium, Ternariumque progrediens, in quaternio Purificatio, sibi Uni restituatur, per Aequalilitatis Proportionem". Lindroth points out that both Khunrath, (cited by Bureus in N 24) and Gerard Dorn, discuss this numerological sequence, and that such speculations were common in hermetic-Cabbalistic circles at that time. This might suggest that not every reference to a Monas is to Dee's. It is interesting that Lindroth in this study spotted (30, 146) the importance of the 'Theophrastia' in the works of Adam Haselmeyer, something which Carlos Gilly has now finely established beyond question. With best wishes, Michael Srigley Subject: ACADEMY : Alchemical manuscript in Cambridge From: Mike Dickman Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 Excuse me. I seem to have left out the important bit! Ophite or Ophian is a term often used in modern scholarship to refer to the earliest strain of Gnostic thinkers and practitioners. Budge wondered whether they did not trace their lineage from Moses. Forgive my too-ready trigger-finger! m Subject: ACADEMY : 19th Century alchemy From: Julia Grella Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 Dear Massimo, Thank you for your reply. I am interested in your book; is it available in the U.S. that you know of? Do you know of a book by Alessandro Luzio called La massoneria e il risorgimento? I believe it was published in the 1930s. I tried to locate it while I was a fellow last year at the Italian Academy for Advanced Studies in America, but without success - it's difficult to get out of print Italian books here. Thank you again for your assistance. yours, Julia Subject: ACADEMY : Dee and Paracelsus From: Susanna Ĺkerman Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 I have just returned from a visit to the Arcana-library in Harnosand, Sweden, and have read the founder Carl Hjalmar Lindblom's excerpts of texts for contemplation exercises. On the same day, for the same session, after quoting Heinrich Khunrath and Dee's Monas on the importunity of revealing what should remain tacit, Lidblom adds a quote in English: "When the Quaternary rests in the Ternary ariseth the light of the world in the Horizon of eternity" Remarkably, the reference is to "Paracelsus (Aurora 1689)". Can we identify Paracelsus' text or is Lidblom reading a modern false attribution? The other two quotes are to Th. Schaeffers Alkemins Betydelse Stockholm 1909, (The significance of Alchemy), a translation into Swedish from some foreign source with long sections from Khunrath that adds in significance since the author reveals the alchemical process in chemical terms accounting for all the colourshifts and the stage of extraction of silver from galena and the addition of vitriol in a two page footnote on p. 40-42. Schaeffer does not provide the quote attributed to Paracelsus though. Aurora sounds like Boehme. Paracelsus is assumed to have worked with Trithemius (or simply with his texts) from where the Quaternary resting in the Ternary comes - the cross of light generated in Dee's Monas as well. Lidblom's Dee quote from Schaeffer for contemplation is: "Forgive me God if I have sinned against thy holiness, when I reveal such great secrets in public books. But I hope that only they will properly understand them, who are thereto worthy." Preface to Monas Hieroglyphica. Lidblom died in 1990 after having donated his library to the town of Härnösand and Mittenhögskolan, the aspiring local university. Susanna Ĺkerman Subject: ACADEMY : Dee and Paracelsus From: Penny Bayer Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 Dear Susanna, Paracelsus his Aurora (etc.) is posted on the alchemy website - or it was at 3.11.99 (http://levity.com/alchemy/paracel3.html). This text contains the quote you cite. I have a note, based on a copy at Oxford, Bodleian 8 A34 Med BS, that this was first published at Basle in 1575 accompanied by copious annotations in Latin by the editor Gerard Dorn, who may have elaborated on the original. I failed to find this text in Sudhoff and, noticing that its tone is very different to other writings attributed to Paracelsus, wondered if it was considered outside the canon of what can be properly called Paracelsian. Can anyone confirm that? Penny Bayer Subject: ACADEMY : 19th Century alchemy From: Massimo Marra Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2000 Dear Julia > Thank you for your reply. I am interested in your book; > is it available in the U.S. that you know of? The web site of the publisher is: www.alfapi.com/mimesis You can find it also at www.libroelibri.com > Do you know of a book by Alessandro Luzio called > La massoneria e il risorgimento? I believe it was published > in the 1930s. I tried to locate it while I was a fellow last year > at the Italian Academy for Advanced Studies in America, > but without success - it's difficult to get out of print Italian books > here. Thank you again for your assistance. Yes. The first edition were issued in 1925 (Bologna). You can find the reprint at www.fornieditore.com Alessandro Luzio edited Verdi's correspondence too (also available at Forni editore) . In the Forni's catalogue you can find some other books focused on Italian masonry in XIXth. century: D. Di Rubba - Mazzini contro la Massoneria E. Gruber - Giuseppe Mazzini, Massoneria e rivoluzione. C. Patrucco - Garibaldi e la Massoneria D. Anghera' - Memoria sulla Soc. dei FF. Liberi muratori del G. O. Napolitano (focused on napolitan masonry) Best wishes Massimo Subject: ACADEMY : Experience and Experiment in Early Modern Europe From: José Rodríguez Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 Dear all: I send a notice about a NEH Summer Institute for college faculty on 2001 directed by Pamela H. Smith and Pamela O. Long. It will explore an increasing reliance on instrumentation as well as other material and intellectual strategies for the validation of knowledge claims. This interdisciplinary institute accordingly encourages historians of science, cultural historians, art historians, philosophers, anthropologists, sociologists, literary critics, and historians of technology to apply. It will examine key texts (many in their original or early printings) that affect the histories of practices such as painting, architecture, cartography, alchemy, medicine, and performance. For extensive information, including a week-by-week description of the institute, its visiting faculty, and an application form, consult: http://www.folger.edu/institute/nintro.html http://www.folger.edu/institute/NEHHistSci.PDF José Rodríguez Subject: ACADEMY : Gold- und Rosenkreutz From: Hereward Tilton Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 Susanna Ĺkerman wrote: "I have been told, and think I have read at one point, that Robert Fludd makes a distinction between the golden and rosy cross in his defense of the Rosicrucians, but I have no access to the text for now... It would be good to have the question settled. I have contacted Carlos Gilly to this end, but have had no reply... Can someone take a look at Fludd's treatise?" I have had the opportunity to look through the Rosicrucian apologetic works of Fludd, the 'Tractatus apologeticus integritatem societatis roseae crucis defendens' and the 'Apologia Compendiaria', and there is no mention there of the term 'fratres aureae crucis', nor is a distinction made between a gold and rosy cross. Fludd only utilises variations on the terminology given in the manifestos, i.e. he gives Fratres de Societate R. Crucis, Fratres Societatis de Rosea C., etc. This seems to mitigate against the possibility that Fludd contributed to the occult tradition which states that some people received a golden cross upon initiation and others received a rose, marking out a practical alchemical and a theosophical direction in an order. Does anyone have any ideas on this matter? I'm just submitting some of my Rosicrucian research for publication to Aries, so I would be interested to hear from Susanna or anyone else interested in this area. In fact, if anyone has information on the relationship between the Gold- und Rosenkreutz of the later eighteenth century and Freemasonry, I would be very grateful, as I need to pop a bit on that topic into my soon-to-be-completed thesis. Silberer states that the Gold- und Rosenkreutz 'infiltrated' Freemasonry on the continent with almost 'catastrophic' consequences, but I don't quite know what he means. Also... are there any alchemical elements in Freemasonic ritual, perhaps dating from this time? cheers, Hereward Tilton Subject: ACADEMY : Elemire Zolla From: Ugo Cundari Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 Does anyone know if in Naples there is an association where alchemy is studied? I'm a fan of Elemire Zolla and I would like also if someone would be interested to talk about him with me. Thanks, Ugo Cundari Subject: ACADEMY : Gold- und Rosenkreutz From: José Rodríguez Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 Dear Hereward Tilton, Some months ago, on February 2000, I asked about the "Brethren of the Golden Cross" because I found some references when I was reading Madhatano's «Aureum saeculum redivivum» and the «Aureus tractatus» by Johann Grassoff. Susanna Ĺkerman replied in a kind message with useful references, especially the Palombara's mentioning of "a company entitled the rosy cross or as others say the golden cross" in his Ms. "La Bugia" (c:a 1666). Besides, she gave me the URL of his article on the Porta Magica raised in Rome in 1680 by Massimiliano Palombara. It's really interesting: http://www.levity.com/alchemy/queen_christina.html After that I was looking for documents about the "Gold- und Rosenkreutz" and I found: - A. MARX, (1929), "Die Gold- und Rosenkreutz", Zeulendrola & Leipzig, (Thesis). - B. BEYER, (1925), "Das Lehrsystem des Ordens der Gold- und Rosenkreuzer", (Pansophia, 2, 2), Leipzig & Berlin. - C. McINTOSH, (1990), "The Alchemy of the Gold- und Rosenkreutz", in Alchemy Revisited...», Brill Academic Publishers, Leiden, pp. 239-244. These studies speaks about "Gold- und Rosenkreutz" as a heterodox masonic order in the early years of the 18th century associated with a revival of Rosicrucianism in Germany (it could be the Silberer's reference that you know). It was an order that attained a strong following throughout German-speaking world as well as in Poland and Russia, with many exotic masonic rites strongly linked with alchemical operations and symbolism. The order had nine grades of initiation mixing freemasonry, hermeticism, cabbala and, of course, alchemy. The alchemy was present on both a theoretical and practical level. On the theoretical level, alchemical ideas and symbols were incorporated into the rituals of initiation and the teachings that accompained each grade. The teachings included theosophical or spititual questions using alchemical and gnostic ideas as well as linking alchemy and Pietism. On the practical level, the laboratory was an important part of the initiation from the third degree called "Practicus". The instructions contain a description of an alchemical laboratory needed for alchemical work and explanatory references on the kind of retorts, flasks, distillation vessels, crucibles, etc. In a practical sense they worked making regulus of antimony and other substances. Some members really interested on a practical way had their own laboratories and there are notices about common laboratories too. In other cases, at the end of the initiation the member focused his/her pursuit in a spiritual or inner sense. I think the occult tradition which states that some members received a golden cross upon initiation and others received a rose could be borned in this rare masonic order. You should check minutely the Beyer's extensive work about "...des Ordens der Gold- und Rosenkreuzer". Good luck in your reseach, José Rodríguez Subject: ACADEMY : Gold- und Rosenkreutz From: Susanna Ĺkerman Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 If one reads Waite's the Brotherhood of the Rosy Cross one finds on 344 and 347 a reference to Arcana totius naturae secretissima, nec hactenus unquam detecta, a collegio Rosanio in lucem produntur, opera Petri Mormii, Leiden 1630. Waite who has not found any copy of the tract but follows reports in eighteenth century works, that "On the authority of Petrus Mormius, we hear of a certain Rose, not otherwise designated, who was very old in 1620 and dwellt on the frontier of Dauphiny. He affirmed that he was a member of the Golden Rosy Cross, which was composed of three persons only and refused to accept Mormius, who had come over from Spain in the hope of securing this advantage, but in the end Rose permitted the author of Arcana totius naturae to remain as his servant and famulus, and the latter obtained sufficent knowledge to warrant in his own opinion the attempted inauguration of Collegium Rosanium." (This is supposed to be a Dutch college held "in a palace", therefore speculation on whether Rose's name was Christian Rose or Fredrick Rose, after the Winter King). This appears to be the oldest mention of a Golden and Rosy Cross. I think I have been mislead by hearsay that this would be founded on Fludd, but the tradition is alive that some received a golden cross and others a rose. Does Fludd distinguish an alchemical and a theosophical path (a sublunary and supercelestial path or something of that order?) without designating them further as golden and rosy. Or is there nothing of this sort? Waite recalls the eques aureae lapidis in the Chemical wedding and points out that the Order of Golden fleece confers a golden cross (of St. Andrew I recall, perhaps not falsely this time?). Madhatanus speaks of a fratres aureae crucis in 1622. I am glad that you take the effort of sorting this out and be sure to censure my claim on Fludd on p. 181 of my book Rose Cross Over the Baltic, I speak there with such apparent certainty because I have been in contact with certain persons who have told me something of that sort. These belong to the Order of the Golden Dawn or are private scholars such as Ron Heisler. I do not want to blame them, but must have taken something they said and magnified it in my own mind. The idea of a tradition of golden cross for alchemists and rose for theosophers is not my own though, but has a role in certain mythologies that perhaps are nothing more than attempts of moderns to make sense of the distinction between the golden and rosy parts of the Cross. But it does have to have some meaning. Francesco Maria Santinelli's phrase "de la mia aureae rosa croce fortuna" stems from 1659, that is for certain. So one wonders how these ideas and phrasing has travelled out of Mormius to Italy, by way of Madhathanus, Aureum Saeculum redivivum 1622. It would have been convenient to find a common source... There has been much speculation that Waite reports on the origin of the Golden and Rosy Cross in Freemasonic circles since they knew of the Order that was not masonic but rather an order of its own. The Gold and Rosencreutz people were very traditionalist and conservative and McIntosh regards them as a counter-enlightenment movement, and I have seen statements that they worked against Adam Weishaupt's Order of the Illuminati in 1780's which spread enlightenment ideas. The cross they conferred golden with a rose in the middle was tied to a blue ribbon according to Waite, my report that they had a green ribbon stems from the colour of the ribbon to the Cross of Order of St. Lazarus, which they depict (Cross of St. Lazarus whom Jesus raised from the dead) in the Geheime figuren der Rosencreutzer. I thus want to correct my earlier statement on the academy. I am heading for the Bibliotheca Hermetica in February and will see if I can get some answers from material there. Truth is elusive when not manifestly seen... Susanna Akerman Subject: ACADEMY : Humfrey Lock Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 From: Peter Grund Dear Lauren Kassell, Thank you very much for your reply. >I spent a quite a while trying to identify Humfrey (or Henry) >Lock in the initial stages of my work on Forman, though found >frustratingly little. Basically, all the information that I have found about Humfrey Lock is given in my previous message. If you have additional information I would be very grateful if you could let me know. By "Henry", do you mean the poet Henry Lok (1553?-1608?)? Do you think there is a connection between Humfrey and Henry? >I would be very interested to know more about the relationship >between the various copies of this text-- I am at the stage of collating the different MS copies. I would be happy to provide you with information on the interrelationship of the different MSS as soon as I have completed the collation. I have considered using Forman's copy as the base text for my edition. If you have information about MS Ashmole 1490 in general, I would be interested in hearing more about it. >at one stage I planned >to compare the various versions of this and other MSS in the >hope that such an exercise might reveal evidence about Forman's >sources for the numerous MSS that he copied. I would be very interested in knowing more about the various versions that you mention. I have found seven copies of the text. It would be very valuable to me if we could exchange information on the different versions of the text. If you wish, you can contact me directly. You can get my e-mail address from Adam McLean. Best wishes, Peter Grund Subject: ACADEMY : Ape, homunculus, fertility From: Susanna Ĺkerman Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 José, Thank you for all you wonderful bibliographic research. I want to point out something that has concerned me lately in the picture of Christina that I have reproduced in my article you refer to in Adam's web pages. This is the ape in the background right. We had the question of the alchemical significance of the ape on the academy this spring and it seems from Fludd that there is an evolutionary idea that from a primary and natural, but only near human level, one can transform into a golden soul. For a long while I thought the ape in the Christina picture marked the passage to the netherworld since the Porta Magica is flanked by two statues of the Egyptian ape-dwarf god Bes, placed there only in 1888 by some masonic group. I also thought fancifully that the ape (homunculus) was an allusion to an abortion since there are some barely seen metallic instruments beneath the feet of the ape. This was an illusion of course even if there are such rumours in connection to Christina's life. I have however been convinced by Kjell Lekeby's recent book "Kung Kristina" (Vertigo, 2000) that King Christina was a lesbian and transgendered. She may have been reformed in 1656 when she met Cardinal Azzolino, but it seems that their close connection was platonic. Lekeby also draws closely on the alchemical idea of the Androgyne and describes her fictional gender transformation into Alexander. We have a common source in Arne Wettermark, who knew Eugene Canseliet in Paris who first wrote about the Porta. Since some time I think the barely seen instruments are alchemical and that Christina as Diana (Artemis) of the picture is also alluding to the shepherdess Amarantha (her nickname). Her Order of the Amaranthe had double A's and an eternal green garland to signify eternal life. I have discovered that Amaranthos is the mountain in Colchis at which the river Phanes flows and to which the argonauts journeyed for the Golden fleece. Notice that Palombara's door is topped with allusion to Iason, Medea and the golden fleece! I hope I do not tire the academy by carping on this theme. It has many layers. One is of course whether alchemy is friendly to women, or whether the dream of reproducing fertility in the laboratory is a male pipe-dream. I have been told recently that William Newman has argued this in connection with the homunculus. Does anyone have the reference? In defense I would say that the presence of the feminine in alchemy is valuable, even if the secrecy and initiation involved probably did not bring in that many women. Perenelle being presently written out of the picture... Also, the making of homunculi is not very prominent in alchemy, it belongs to fringe mythology. Susanna Akerman Subject: ACADEMY : Alchemical sites in Venice From: EveSinaiko@aol.com Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 I am trying to track down information about a couple of locations in Venice that have rumors or legends about alchemy or esoteric practices attached to their history. One site is the ciruclar church of S. Maria della Salute, which is said to have Rosicrucian and/or esoteric symbols embedded in its architecture and decorations. The architect is Longhena, thought to have been a Jew or converted Jew, about whom little is known. A second site is nearby: the 12th-century ex-Benedictine abbey of S. Gregorio, whose deconsecrated church (suppressed by the Repubic in 1775 and closed by decree of Napoleon) was used for gold founding and refining by the state Mint in the early 1800s. There are some vague mentions of possible associations with alchemy on this site, but I have found nothing concrete. Also in the same district is Fondamenta (quay) Ca' Bala', whose name is sometime linked to esoteric legends. The quay is not near any Casa (Ca' in Venetian dialect) named Bala', nor is there any family named Bala' in the historical record. It is therefore speculated that this may be an odd spelling of Cabbala'. In general Venice is often mentioned as a city with strong esoteric associations, but I have not found much actual trace of either true or false alchemy practiced there. Can anyone recommend books or articles that discuss Venice and esotericism, or, more specifically, Venice and alchemy? My thanks and regards to the Academy. Eve Sinaiko Subject: ACADEMY : Nigredo From: John Ashpool Date: 30 Nov 2000 I cannot not help noticing that some discriptions of the psychic 'event' discribed as the 'nigredo' bear a resemblance to the the sort of 'events' which M.Eliade described as leading to 'election', in his study of Shamanism. Without wishing to provoke discussion of this subject, which would be a digression from the focus of this forum, I would appreciate any suggestions as to where I can find any literature dealing with it. With thanks John Ashpool Subject: ACADEMY : Toad From: Robert Palmer Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 Hello everybody. Just joined the ranks and am in search of information regarding the use of and image of, the toad in alchemy. So far all I've been able to dig up (which is actually quite a lot, though not enough) are the references in Rafal's article, and the works of Ripley and Philalethes. Specifically I am interested in the actual use of a physical toad, and/or toad "products" in the alchemical opus and in the creation of medicinal tinctures. I am also interested in how the symbol of the toad and raven originally became interpenetrated in various alchemical traditions. The purpose behind this research is for the present creation of an illustrated alchemical mass -- a species of "Mutus Liber", but with canticle, as well as for an on-going project of mine correlating certain alchemical referents and their infusion into various sects of British Traditional Witchcraft. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks. Robert F. Palmer |