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Alchemy Academy archive November 2001 Back to alchemy academy archives. Subject: ACADEMY : Conference on alchemy in medieval culture From: Adam McLean Date: 7 Nov 2001 A colleague has alerted me to a proposed conference organised by the Wellcome Unit for the History of Medicine in Norwich . 'The rising dawn': the contribution of alchemy to medieval medicine and intellectual life Conference at the University Of East Anglia, Norwich, 21-22 March 2002. For further information see http://www.uea.ac.uk/his/wellcome/alchemy_call.htm Subject: ACADEMY : Lazarus Ercker and Alchemy Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 From: Michal Pober Dear Friends, A while ago I discovered a very interesting reference to Lazarus Ercker [assayer in the Czech lands in the Rudolf II period] also practicing alchemy. Now I can't find any trace of it. Does anyone, by any chance, have any ideas what it might have been.. I'm seeking this information in connection with the Museum, about which more very shortly. Best Regards, Michal Pober Subject: ACADEMY : Book of Philalethes From: Adam McLean Date: 11 Nov 2001 There is a rather rare volume of the works of Eireneaus Philalethes published at Modena in 1695. There is a copy in the Wellcome Institute Library in London, but it does not have all the engravings which were originally included in this work. Does anyone know the location of another copy of this book ? Here is the full title. [Eireneus Philalethes] Mercurius de Mercurio. Germinae Columbae & Maternae Aves. Virg. Lib. 6. Aeneid. Mundi fundum si profundum laborando inveneris crede mihi habes totum unde beari poteris. Anonimy Philalethae Philosophi. Opera omnia, Quae adhuc otuerunt cum 12, figuris aeneis, ipsius Philalethae, nunquam visis. Mutinae [Modena], Typis Fortuniani Rosati. 1695. Superiorum Permissis. Adam McLean Subject: ACADEMY : Book of Philalethes From: José Rodríguez Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 Dear Adam, There is a copy in the Biblioteca Estense, in Modena. Author : Starkey, George. Title : Anonymi Philalethae philosophi Opera omnia, quae adhucinotuerunt cum 12. figuris aeneis, ipsius Philalethae, nunquam visis. Publisher : typis Fortunati Rosati. City : Mutinae. Date : 1695. Physical description : [12], 288 p., [4] c. di tav. : ill. Note : "Le illustrazioni sono incisioni fuori testo". - *6, A-M12. If you need information about reprographic services in the Biblioteca Estense: http://www.cedoc.mo.it/biblio/idconnector2.idc?nome=Estense http://www.cedoc.mo.it/biblio/servizipubblico.htm e-mail: biblio.estense@cedoc.mo.it José Rodríguez Subject: ACADEMY : Book of Philalethes From: Eugene Beshenkovsky Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 There is a copy in Germany. Titel: Anonymi Philalethae philosophi Opera, quae adhuc inotuerunt : cum 12 figuris aeneis, ipsius Philalethae, nunquam visis. - Mutinae, Typis Fortuniani Rosati, 1695 Verfügbarkeitsinformation der Bibliotheken < 18> Hamburg, Staats- und Universitätsbibliothek 'Carl von Ossietzky' Eugene Beshenkovsky Subject: ACADEMY : Symbol of Dolphin From: Gleb Butuzov Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 Dear members of the forum, I would be most grateful if somebody explained and/or mentioned references concerning usage of the symbol of Dolphin in alchemy. Thank you and best regards. Gleb. Subject: ACADEMY : XVIIth Century alchemical medal From: Stanislas Klossowski de Rola Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 Dear Adam, I thought you and the Academy might enjoy seeing photographs I have recently taken of an extraordinary XVIIth century Rosicrucian alchemical medal which has been in my collection for many years now. You will notice that the Subject of the Wise or Philosophick Mercury bears the same hieroglyph as that which adorns the midriff of the beautiful Lady Antimony, in Romyn de Hooghe's fine Emblem for the Currus Triumphalis Antimonii 1671 (see p.227 of my Golden Game.) The central Rose represents, of the course the Philosopher's Stone which bestows the Supreme gifts of God. On the reverse the Divine Stone is represented by Christ at the well bestowing the same supreme gift: "But whosoever drinketh of the water that I shall give him shall never thirst; but the water that I shall give him shall be in him a well of water springing up into everlasting life." John 4. 14. There are many, many, more things to be discovered but I leave the pleasure to do so to everyone's sagacity. All the very best, Stanislas Klossowski de Rola Subject: ACADEMY : Lazarus Ercker and Alchemy Date: 12 Nov 2001 From: John Norris Hello Michal, This is John Norris in Prague. I've been studying Ercker's book for several years. In it he does praise the alchemists for their discovery of materials and processes, but doesn't mention undertaking such practices himself. However, in reading his text it is very apparent that he had an amazing and thorough chemical understanding of minerals. A more concrete connection between Ercker and alchemy is that he believed that when iron is placed into vitriol solution [Cu, Fe sulfate], the resulting deposition of copper onto the solid iron was actually a transmutation of iron into copper. He mentions this in his book. As such vitriol solutions occurred in Kutna Hora, this could also be interesting for you. Paracelsus mentions this same reaction with vitriol solutions from Kutna Hora as well. I hope this helps. Take care, -John Subject: ACADEMY : Lazarus Ercker and Alchemy From: Ahmad Hassan Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 Hello John, Your message brought into mind a passage that I had read a long time ago in "A History of Technology", edited by Singer et. al. Volume II, Oxford, 1956, p.11 : "When the famous mines there [in Spain], passed into Muslim hands during the Moorish occupation, the output of .lead, and other metals declined. The Moors then found that if water containing copper sulphate is allowed to run over iron, pure copper is deposited and the iron dissolved. As iron was cheap and abundant in Spain, this discovery yielded an efficient method of recovering copper from sulphide ore, and direct mining of copper ore became less necessary." Ahmad Subject: ACADEMY : Symbol of Dolphin Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 From: Michael Srigley Dear Gleb, It's a long shot, but your question put me in mind of Shakespeare's 'Antony and Cleopatra' which has a number of alchemical references and mentions a 'dolphin'. The clearest alchemical image is in Cleopatra's words about Alexas,who being so unlike Antony, "Yet coming from him, that great med'cine hath / With his tinct gilded thee," (I.v.36-37). The next references occur in the final act when Cleopatra extravagantly exalts Antony; "his delights / Were dolphin-like, they show'd his back above / The element they lived in" (V.ii.36-37. And finally, as Cleopatra prepares to die she achieves her 'exaltatio' with the words: "I am fire, and air; my other elements / I give to baser life" (V.ii.388-9). I can mention too that 'Cleopatra Aegypti Regina' with tambourine (as in the play) is included among the alchemists in Johann Daniel Mylius's 'Opus medico-chemicum', 1618 (see Stanislas Klossowski de Rola's excellent 'The Golden Game', 140. A dolphin is shown in Goosen van Vreeswijk's 'De Groene Leeuw', 1674, in Stanislas' work, p. 248 and n. to ill. 422, where like Antony it shows its back above the element of water signifying according to the note "the gradual thickening of Mercury into paste until its final Fixation is a long operation traditionally compared to a sea voyage in bad weather....". Best wishes, Michael Srigley Subject: ACADEMY : Symbol of Dolphin From: Hans H. Hammerschlag Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 Dear Gleb, Not having at the moment the time to translate from spanish to english two excellent articles on the subject, I only will refer you and other forum members to these material. The first, on the subject of the "Philosophical Fish" which I highly recommend, written by Jose Rodriguez, a kind contributor not only to this forum but to many of us in our search for serious alchemical documents and sources, for which I always will be thankful, and the second, written in two parts by a dear friend, under the pen name of Dauphin Rouge, and dedicated entirely to the dolphin symbolism. http://www.levity.com/alchemy/el_pez.html http://www.fortunecity.com/meltingpot/dakota/686/delfin1.htm http://www.fortunecity.com/meltingpot/dakota/686/delfin2.htm If you do read spanish, but still have any questions regarding specific meanings, I will be glad to help. Hans Subject: ACADEMY : Symbol of Dolphin From: Stanislas Klossowski de Rola Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 Dear Gleb, The dolphin is the symbol of the Sulphur of the Wise, the nascent principle of fixity which appears on the surface of its Mother the dissolved mercurial Sea. Observe how, in the third plate of the Mutus Liber, the fishing couple are striving to capture it. In French Le Dauphin was the title given to the Crown prince and quite precisely indicates the importance of the principle thereby designated. (see Fulcanelli Le Mystere des Cathedrales p. 191-192.) All the best, Stanislas Klossowski de Rola Subject: ACADEMY : Lazarus Ercker and Alchemy Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 From: Michal Pober Dear John, Many thanks for your response. You were one of my hopes for the information that I was looking for. I'm still trying to resolve whether I suffered a fit of wishful thinking or some other temporary derangement other than memory loss.. >A more concrete connection between Ercker and alchemy is >that he believed that when iron is placed into vitriol solution >[Cu, Fe sulfate], the resulting deposition of copper onto the solid >iron was actually a transmutation of iron into copper. He mentions >this in his book. As such vitriol solutions occurred in Kutna Hora, >this could also be interesting for you. Paracelsus mentions this >same reaction with vitriol solutions from Kutna Hora as well. This is of course very interesting, as are the positive comments re the alchemists' work that you mention. Some time ago through the Academy I received evidence that Paracelsus was getting vitriol from Kutna Hora. Time that we discussed these matters in person! Yesterday evening I was discussing that very possibility with Dr Karpenko. Best Regards, Michal Pober Subject: ACADEMY : Symbol of Dolphin From: Gleb Butuzov Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 Thanks Michael, Actually your reference to Shakespeare is encouraging! The main point of my question was rather not suitable for academical forum - during almost six last months I was meeting this symbol in connection with my personality rather oftener than usual probability allows - including my valises, which I've chosen when moving to Montreal having purely practical purposes in mind, but in the end I found an image of dolphin on the locks! In fact, my knowledge of the subject is limited with the fact that in hermetick tradition the dolphins symbol sometimes is equal to that of fishes, but we know that the dolphin is much more clever being, and it can exist both in water and air. The notion of Stanislas Klossowski de Rola is very helpful in this connection. Thank you and my best wishes. Gleb. Subject: ACADEMY : Symbol of Dolphin From: Gleb Butuzov Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 Dear Hans, Thank you very much for the reference. Unfortunately I do not read Spanish (which I consider a serious disadvantage, and I'm going to improve the situation right after I finish my avancé French course here in the University of Montreal where I live now). By the way, I have to thank Mr Rodriguez for his help while preparing commentaries to my Russian translation of Flamel's works which was published in St Petersburg earlier this year - no doubt, his name is mentioned in "thanks to" section (Adam has a copy). My very best wishes, Gleb. Subject: ACADEMY : Symbol of Dolphin From: Adam McLean Date: 14 Nov 2001 The dolphin is a rare symbol in alchemical emblems. Indeed, I can think of few examples. Stanislas Klowsowski de Rola mentions the third plate of the Mutus liber. I can only immediately call to mind the following from printed books. Engraving 1 from Azoth series, J.D. Mylius, Philosophia reformata, Frankfurt, 1622. Engraving 3 from Azoth series, J.D. Mylius, Philosophia reformata, Frankfurt, 1622. Frontispiece from Carl Herrmann Gravel, Fontina Bernhardi revelata, 1750. The titlepage of J.B. Van Helmont, Opera Omnia, Franckfurt, 1682. The twelfth image from Valentine's, Azoth. Some of these are only dolphin-like and not necessarily intended as symbolic references to dolphins as such. They seem to appear as water monsters, or water beasts, sometimes with a water or lunar queen riding upon their backs. I feel sure that the symbolism of these water beasts is almost entirely related to the water element. They play only a very small part in alchemical emblematic symbolism. Adam McLean Subject: ACADEMY : Symbol of Dolphin From: Nancy Bell Date: 14 Nov 2001 Gleb, I do not know of any alchemical references, however, as a bit of a symbolist I can point to some possible symbolic meanings of the dolphin. The dolphin represents hightened sensitivity; intuition; and acute senses, particularly hearing. In symbolism, this would be a call of sorts to develop intuition or a "sixth sense". Perhaps you can see if this fits with other information you gather. Best, Nancy Bell Subject: ACADEMY : Lazarus Ercker and Alchemy Bcc: ACADEMY Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 From: John Norris Hello Ahmad, I'm very glad that you brought up the subject of this reference: > "A History of Technology", edited by > Singer et. al. Volume II, Oxford, 1956, p.11 : > "When the famous mines there [in Spain], passed into Muslim > hands during the Moorish occupation, the output of .lead, and > other metals declined. The Moors then found that if water > containing copper sulphate is allowed to run over iron, pure > copper is deposited and the iron dissolved. As iron was > cheap and abundant in Spain, this discovery yielded an > efficient method of recovering copper from sulphide ore, > and direct mining of copper ore became less necessary." I am also familiar with this interesting passage. Unfortunately, the author of this article (Professor Bromehead) did not cite any references for this fact or discuss what the Arabs interpretation of this reaction might have been. Do you have any further information on this? Thanks very much, John Subject: ACADEMY : Symbol of Dolphin From: Louis Bourbonnais Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 These are not related to practical alchemy imagery, but are closely connected to the alchemical world. The dolphin is present in (at least) two engravings of the "Songe de Poliphile". I use the Imprimerie Nationale's recent edition of the Jean Martin's one of 1546. The two are used within hieroglyphic rebus: one is located on f-11v (p45) and is a symbol for "salvation"; the second on F-21r (p.71) as meaning "quickness". I've check quickly in the Hierogliphic of Horapollo and I didn't find dolphin references. Manly Hall and mythologist agreed that the dolphin is also a strong symbol of Apollo (as well as the raven). Manly Hall is adding that the dolphin is also a symbol of Christ. It may be of interest to check in the "Bestiaire du Christ" of Charbonneau-Lassay to check this affirmation, and to learn more on the history of the Christ-Dolphin link (if it is more than the Christ-fish association). Unfortunately, I do not have this book and it is impossible for me to search it at the moment. yours, Louis Bourbonnais N.B.: If somebody finds something more about the Hegel's triangle that was discussed last week, I am very interested in this question and should work more on it in my freetime over the next month. Subject: ACADEMY : Symbol of Dolphin From: N J Mann Date: 18 Nov 2001 Dear Gleb, Also in a literary vein, straying from the strictly alchemical, W. B. Yeats uses the dolphin as the carrier of the soul from one existence to the next, in 'Byzantium' and 'News for the Delphic Oracle', which he took from Mrs Strong's *Apotheosis and the After Life* (London: Constable, 1915), drawing also upon the myths of Arion and Dionysus. 'Byzantium' in particular is rich in alchemical imagery, as the souls arrive in Byzantium, the symbol and city of philosophers' gold: Astraddle on the dolphin's mire and blood, Spirit after spirit! The smithies break the flood, The golden smithies of the Emperor! Marbles of the dancing floor Break bitter furies of complexity, Those images that yet Fresh images beget, That dolphin-torn, that gong-tormented sea. 'News for the D. O.' draws heavily on Porphyry's account of the Delphic Oracle's account of the fate of Plotinus' soul. Yeats, working as a copyist in the British Museum, had copied the Poliphilo. Yours ever, Neil Mann. Subject: ACADEMY : Symbol of Dolphin From: Kate Ryan Date: 18 Nov 2001 Louis Bourbonnais gives three pages to the dolphin, calling it the sailor's friend and saviour and guide of souls. He also. remarks that the dolphin is a symbol of Christ. In my copy of the Bestiary of Christ, Louis Charbonneau-Lassay mentions "that on the agate pastoral ring of Bishop Adhemar d'Angouleme whose episcophy was in the eleventh century, there is carved the image of a dolphin twined around the trident, a symbol of Christ on the cross. Between its clenched jaws the divine Fish crushes the head of the octopus.. the victory of Christ over Satan." Also "on a tomb of the Romanesque period in Aix-en-Provence two dolphins are depitcted, one devouring a fish, the other an octopus" He also cites an example from Don Leclerc, taken from Rossi, of an antique seal embellished with a dolphin devouring a serpent. Best, Kate Ryan Subject: ACADEMY : Symbol of Dolphin Bcc: ACADEMY Date: 19 Nov 2001 From: Pierre Stibia Dear friends, Fulcanelli developed large comments on the symbol of Dolphin in his "Demeures Philosophales". I have not this book here but as far as I remember he wrote very interesting information concerning the meaning of this symbol in the capters dedicated to the "Fontaine du vert-bois" and the Hotel Lallemand. Related to this matter, BEATRICE Guy, BATFROI Séverin wrote "Terre du Dauphin et Grand Oeuvre Solaire", published by Dervy Livres, Paris, 1976 which his dedicated to the Dauphiné, the previous name of the district of Isère, Hautes-Alpes and Drôme departments. An other important point : "Dauphin" is the name of the successor of the Roi de France, generally his elder son . In France, there is a great number of fountains with this kind of symbols : see the gardens of Versailles for instance. Further investigations could be made in reading Don Pernety's "dictionnaire mytho-hermetiques" and "Fables grècques et égyptiennes". Regards Joel "Pierre Stibia" Subject: ACADEMY : Pernety - Fables grècques et egyptiennes From: Hans H. Hammerschlag Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 Dear forum members : I am interested to know if there are available translations in either English or Spanish of the Fables grècques et egyptiennes of Pernety. I do have a copy of the limited edition (750 copies) book published by Samuel Weiser, by the name of THE GREAT ART, which includes a good part of the Pernety work in reference, but would like to know if there are available complete translations of this work. Also I would be interested to learn about any other alchemical publications authored by any members of the Illuminati of Avignon, including the members that fled to England during and after the French Revolution. Thanks in advance for your information, Hans Subject: ACADEMY : Green Dragon From: N J Mann Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 I was wondering if anyone could help me with an alchemical reference in a story by W. B. Yeats. In "Rosa Alchemica" (1897) he writes of the book on the doctrine and method of the Order of the Alchemical Rose. It is in a box decorated with peacocks, and is compared to Splendor Solis: "The first chapter described how six students, of Celtic descent, gave themselves up separately to the study of alchemy, and solved, one the mystery of the Pelican, another the mystery of the Green Dragon, another the mystery of the Eagle, another that of Salt and Mercury." Later they jointly realised that "alchemy was the gradual distillation of the contents of the soul" and are then instructed by an old woman (an owl passes - Minerva/Athene?). She expounds "the whole principle of spiritual alchemy, and bid them found the Order of the Alchemical Rose" (Mythologies 283-84). I am particularly interested in the four 'mysteries' referred to. Yeats's knowledge of alchemy was probably superficial but sound, since he was a member of the Order of the Golden Dawn, and other members were practising alchemists. Although the general meaning of the terms is clear, does this grouping of them have any particular source or meaning? As far as I have seen, the Green Dragon is also a relatively rare term, and Yeats might be confusing the Green Lion and the Dragon, though it is used by Urbigeranus (in undetermined and determined forms) in Aphorismi Urbigerani. Rafal Prinke also r efers to a Green Dragon in "Hermetic Heraldry" on this site as part of the "most beautiful example of hermetic arms . . . from a German manuscript showing the Green Dragon biting its tail and holding Red Roses in its claws, with the White Eagle and the Phoenix or Dove above it" though its not clear where this is to be found. (Is this related to the imagery of Aurora consurgens?) Could this be interpreted as Dragon, Eagle and Pelican? and would it have been possible for Yeats (an Irishman spending a lot of time in London) to have seen either of these images in the 1890s? I greatly appreciate any light that anyone can shed on this. Yours ever, Neil Mann. Subject: ACADEMY : Green Dragon Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 From: Rafal T. Prinke Neil Mann wrote: > Rafal Prinke also > refers to a Green Dragon in "Hermetic Heraldry" on this site as > part of the "most beautiful example of hermetic arms . . . from a > German manuscript showing the Green Dragon biting its tail and > holding Red Roses in its claws, with the White Eagle and the > Phoenix or Dove above it" though its not clear where this is to > be found. Oops... yes, didn't give the reference there. Poor scholarship! I was referring to a drawing in a manuscript in the Jagiellonian Library - if I remember correctly, Adam wrote a short article about it in one of the early Hermetic Journals (in the Alchemical Mandala series, I think). The image is not unique, however, as I had a photograph of an almost identical emblem and in colour from the BPH many years ago. And it is basically the same scheme as that in one of the heraldic emblems from Reusner's 'Pandora'. Best regards, Rafal Subject: ACADEMY : Early history of alchemy in Europe From: Adam McLean Date: 22 Nov 2001 Can anyone recommend some reliable scholarly analysis and account of the early history of alchemy in Europe, say from the mid 12th century through to the 15th. I have recently been reading the excellent article by William Newman 'Technology and Alchemical Debate', in ISIS Vol 80, 1989, p423-445, and it raises many questions. It may be that we have to reassess some of the established preconceptions. Much of the history of alchemy was researched in the early 20th Century, by such scholars as Ruska, Partington, Thorndike, etc. There seems to be a new resurgence of scholarly interest in this area, with a number of scolars contributing well researched articles revealing new material, and challenging old assumptions, but there does not yet seem to be a substantial work on the early history. I believe it is quite important to rexamine the roots of alchemy in Europe, and I wonder if there are any substantial recent scholarly writings in this area that have escaped my notice. Adam McLean Subject: ACADEMY : Caprara collection in Bologna From: Adam McLean Date: 21 Nov 2001 Does anyone have any information on the Caprara collection of alchemical manuscripts in the University Library in Bologna. Is there any listing or survey of these, or perhaps an article on the collection? Adam McLean Subject: ACADEMY : Green Dragon Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 From: Michael Srigley Dear Neil Mann, You raised the question of whether Yeats could have seen images of the Green Dragon as an Irishman who spent considerable time in London. In 1893 Yeats's friend W. E. Waite published Basil Valentine's treatise, "Practica, with the Twelve Keys and an Appendix" in his translation of the 'Musaeum Hermeticum reformatum' (Frankfurt, 1749). Both Yeats and Waite were members of the Golden Dawn, and so was Dr William Westcott Wynn whose well-stocked library in London was open to all members of the Society. On its shelves was Basil Valentine's 'Triumphant Chariot of Antinomy, illustrated', an English translation printed in London in 1678 (see George Mills Harper 'Yeat's Golden Dawn' (1974) 290). In my view, Yeats, as a member of the Golden Dawn which he joined in 1893, was deeply versed in the alchemical tradition. In this Order he was instructed in the history of the Rosicrucian Order and Andreae's 'Chymical Marriage' was required reading for those those who joined it. Hope this is of help, Michael Srigley Subject: ACADEMY : Green Dragon From: Henrik Bogdan Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 Dear Neil Mann, Regarding Yeats, Golden Dawn, and Alchemy: In each degree or grade the members of the Golden Dawn had to go through a prescribed course of study which included subjects such as astrology, kabbalah, tarot, geomancy and, of course, alchemy. In the first grade, that of Neophyte, the alchemical subject of study covered 'The names and alchemical symbols of the four elements'. In the second grade, Zelator, 'The names and alchemical symbols of the three principles of nature'; 'The metals attributed in alchemy to the seven planets'; 'The names of the alchemical particular principles, the Sun and Moon of the philosophers, the Green Lion, the King and Queen'. In the third grade, Theoricus, 'The Alchemical Sephiroth'; 'The meaning of the terms Cucurbit, Alembic, Athanor, Balneum Mariae, Sand Bath, and the Philosophical Egg'. In the fourth grade, Practicus, 'The Derivation and Formation of the Symbols of the Planets with their alchemical meaning'; 'General theory of Alchemical Symbolism'; 'The various aspects of Alchemical Symbolism', 'Origin of most of the Alchemical Symbolism'; 'Meaning of Mercury on the Tree of Life'; 'Meaning of the Alchemical Symbol of Mercury on the Alchemic Sephiroth'; 'Symbols of the planets bound in the Mercurial Symbol'. (Gilbert, The Golden Dawn Companion, 1986, pp. 91-93) Yeats passed through all these grades and eventually proceeded to the 'Second Order'. Keeping in mind that Yeats was examined in all these subjects, I think it is safe to assume that he was well acquainted with alchemy, at least in the form that was taught in the Golden Dawn. Best wishes! Henrik Bogdan Subject: ACADEMY : Caprara collection in Bologna From: José Rodríguez Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 Dear Adam: There is an article by Didier Kahn: - DIDIER KAHN, (1994), "Le fonds Caprara de manuscrits alchimiques de la Bibliotheque Universitaire de Bologne", in «Scriptorum», nº 48, pp. 62-110. (in french) It is a well documented work. Kahn corrects some mistakes that you can find in old cataloges (specially dating the manuscripts). José Rodríguez Subject: ACADEMY : Caprara collection in Bologna From: Claude Gagnon Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 Dear Adam, There is indeed a very good recent survey of the Caprara funds by Didier Kahn: «Le fonds Caprara de manuscrits alchimiques de la bibliothèque universitaire de Bologne» dans Scriptorium, tome XLVIII (1994,1), Centre d'étude des manuscrits, Bruxelles. You have everythig you need in there. Claude Gagnon Subject: ACADEMY : Early history of alchemy in Europe From: José Rodríguez Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 Dear Adam, In my opinion there are no books on a "full history" of European alchemy in the Late Middle Ages (12th-15th centuries). Only in the last twenty years you can find a remarkable number of scholars, some academical structures like the "Sociéte d'Étude de l'Histoire de l'Alchimie" (CNRS France) and an increasing interest in making critical editions of the medieval texts. I think with these tools it will be possible (in the course of many years) to give in detail the history of medieval alchemy in the European context. You have to consider that the past "scholarly" approaches to the theme of medieval alchemy were not free from defects. In order to clarify this question, the historiography of the 19th and 20th centuries was reviewed by Barbara Obrist. She makes manifest the methodological problems and the good hits in scholars as Berthelot, Kopp, Hoefer, Partington, Hopkins, Ganzenmüller, etc. - BARBARA OBRIST, (1995), "Vers une histoire de l'alchimie medievale", in «Micrologus», 3, pp. 3-43 [in French]. I send you recent articles and books with general overviews showing alternative bibliography. Concerning the reception of arabic alchemy in the West (12th and 13th centuries): - ROBERT HALLEUX, (1996), "La réception de l'alchimie arabe en Occident", in: Régis Morelon (ed.), «Histoire des sciences arabes», t. III, pp. 143-154 [in French]. - RICHARD LEMAY, (1990-1991), "L'Authenticié de la Préface de Robert de Chester à sa traduction de Morenius", in: «Chrysopoeia», 4, pp. 3-32 [in French]. In the first half of the 13th century there was a rich tradition of treatises ("De anima in arte alchemiae", "Epistola de re recta", "Liber septuaginta", "Liber experimentorum", "De aluminibus et salibus", "De perfecto magisterio", "De semita recta", "Lumen luminum", etc.) with recipes and explaining how to manufacture differents "elixirs" or "Lapis philosophorum": - M. PEREIRA, (1995), "Teorie dell'elixir nell'alchimia latina medievale" en, «Micrologus», 3, pp. 103-148 [in Italian]. - ANDRÉE COLINET, (2000), "L'Anonime de Zuretti", Les Belles Lettres, París [in French, great critical edition]. In the second half of the 13th century appears genuine Western collections of alchemical recipes. In medieval classifications of arts and sciences alchemy appears as an artisanal branch, as a craft, which was defined as dealing with the artificial transmutations: - JEAN MARC MANDOSIO, (1990-1991), "La place de l'alchimie dans les clasifications des sciences et des arts à la Renaissance", in: «Chrysopoeia», 4, pp. 199-282, cf. pp. 199-210 [in French]. Nevertheless, there was a popular controversy about the power of the alchemical technology and the possibility of transmuting the "species" of metals: - CHIARA CRISCIANI (1976), "La quaestio de alchimia tra Duecento e Trecento", en «Medioevo», nº 2, pp. 119-168 [in Italian]. - CHIARA CRISCIANI & CLAUDE GAGNON, (1980), "Alchimie et philosophie au Moyen Âge. Perspectives et problèmes", L'Aurore / Univers, Montreal [in French]. - CHIARA CRISCIANI (1981), "Labirinti dell'oro: specificita e mimesi nell'alchimia latina", in: «Aut aut», pp. 127-151 [in Italian]. - WILLIAM R. NEWMAN, (1986), "The Summa perfectionis and Late Medieval Alchemy. A Study of Chemical Traditions, Techniques, and Theories in the Thirteenth-Century Italy", 4 vols., Ph.D., Harvard University, Department of the History of Science, cf. tome I [in English, great]. - WILLIAM R. NEWMAN, (1989), "Technology and Alchemical Debate in the Late Middle Ages", en: «Isis», nº 80, pp. 423-445 [in English]. - WILLIAM NEWMAN, (1991) "The Summa Perfectionis of Pseudo-Geber. A critical edition, translation and study", E. J. Brill, Leiden [in English, great critical edition]. Alchemist tried to respond by integrating alchemy into the institutionally approved cosmological system, that is, into Aristotle's philosophy of nature. By this way alchemists tried to develop a theoretical frame capable of yielding coherent working models. However, it did not occur without problems. The alchemist's pretention to be able to produce gold raised the problem of transmutation of "species", which was, in Aristotle, considered to be the prerogative of nature or divinity but never an artificial operation. Usually, alchemists adapt the relationships betwen art and nature, and exploit an image of nature's servant which work to accelerate or complete natural processes. - BARBARA OBRIST, (1996), "Art et nature dans l'alchimie medievale", in «Revue d'histoire des sciences», 49, pp. 215-286 [in French, great]. But in the 14th century grew in volume the alchemists which attempts to place their art in relation with a divine work, as we can see in treatises of the alchemical corpus attributed to Raymond Lull, (cf. "Testamentum", part I, chap. 78). - MICHELA PEREIRA, (1992), "L'oro dei filosofi. Saggio sulle idee di un alchimista del '300", CISAM, Spoleto [in Italian]. - M. PEREIRA, (2000), "Heaven on Earth: From the Tabula smaragdina to the Alchemical Fifth Essence", en: «Early Science and Medicine», vol 5, nº 2, pp. 131-144 [in English]. During the 14th century alchemists focused their researches in a special type of "elixir"; they said it was the best because it was an universal agent. I think the most representative works in that sense are the "Rosarium philosophorum" attributed to Arnau de Vilanova (Incipit: Iste namque liber nominatur Rosarius...) and the "Testamentum" attributed to Raymond Lull. - MICHELA PEREIRA; BARBARA SPAGGIARI, (1999), "Il Testamentum Alchemico attributo a Raimondo Lullo: edizione del testo latino e catalano dal manoscritto Oxford, Corpus Christi College, 244", Edizioni del Galluzzo, Tavarnuzze (Florence), [in Italian, great]. - MICHELA PEREIRA, (1995), "Arnaldo da Vilanova e l'Alchimia", in Josep Perarnau (ed.), «Actes de la I trobada Internacional d'Estudis sobre Arnau de Vilanova», t. 2, pp. 95-174 [in Italian]. - GIULIANA CAMILI, (1995), "Il Rosarius philosophorum attribuito ad Arnaldo da Villanova nella Tradizione Alchemica del Trecento", in «Actes de la I Trobada Internacional d'Estudis sobre Arnau de Vilanova», t. 2, pp. 175-208, [in Italian]. - ANTOINE CALVET, (1997), "Le Rosier alchimique de Montpellier, Lo Rosari (XIVe siecle)", traduction, notes et commentaires. Paris-Sorbonne U. P., París, [in French]. The hunt for this amazing universal elixir implies a considerable extension of the alchemical literature since the first half of the 14th century. In the 15th century philosophical Humanism and legal Humanism presented the reaction of Italian writers to the extensive alchemical background. In a philosophical sense Humanists disputed about alchemy as a "true science" and, in a legal sphere, they tried to determine jurisprudence on the production of alchemical gold, silver and legal coins. - SYLVAIN MATTON, (1995), "L'Influence de l'humanisme sur la tradition alchimique", en «Micrologus», 3, pp. 279-353 [in French]. It is only a really short reference to the topic of the transmutation of metals in the Late Middle Ages (the principal question in the Newman's article "Technology and Alchemical Debate..."), but Medieval Period involves other extensive fields, for example, the relationships betwen alchemy and medicine, alchemy and religion, alchemy and Church or ecclesiastic order, alchemy and popular culture... Regards, José Rodríguez Subject: ACADEMY : Green Dragon From: Neil Mann Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2001 Dear Rafal, Michael and Henrik, Many thanks for your comments and help. As you have commented, the Golden Dawn syllabus was quite wide ranging and full on the subject of alchemy. I did not wish to cast aspersions on Yeats's alchemical knowledge and the importance of his reading, merely not to make too great claims for it. At least W A Ayton was working with athanor and cucurbite and MacGregor Mathers was very interested in alchemy. As far as I can tell Yeats's only practical involvement with alchemy was an abortive attempt at vegetable palingenesis. Perhaps I am belittling Yeats's alchemical knowledge, since he evidently knew Basil Valentine's Chariot of Antimony, the Chemical Wedding, Solis Splendor and refers to Morienus, Avicenna inter alia. He was also, however, capable of mixing up Nicholas Flamel and Ramón Lull, writing of "Raymond Lully and his wife Pernella". With respect to the Green Dragon itself, I am trying to find out more on this particular detail for a colleague who is working on a new scholarly edition, and to see whether it is likely that Yeats was using the imagery from a source where the specific term "Green Dragon" is used (eg. Urbigerus or the heraldic emblems), or whether he is thinking of an image such as the Dragon in Basil Valentine's Third Key, the final plate of the Maier edition of the Twelve Keys in the Golden Tripod or the stage of Saturn in Splendor Solis, which he has then described as Green. At the moment the heraldic emblems seem to me the most plausible source for these three particular beasts on their own, but such emblems seem unlikely to have been the ones to hand for him, given the sources which Rafal Prinke mentions. Again, many thanks for your comments. Yours ever, Neil Mann Subject: ACADEMY : Green Dragon Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 From: Rafal T. Prinke Dear Neil, > As far as I can tell Yeats's only practical involvement with alchemy > was an abortive attempt at vegetable palingenesis. I believe you are aware of the 1996 book by William Gorski entitled _Yeats and Alchemy_ (State University of New York Press). I have not seen it - there is a publishers' description at: http://www.sunypress.edu/sunyp/backads/html/gorski.html Best regards, Rafal Subject: ACADEMY : Green Dragon From: Peter Kelly Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2001 You might be interested in what Fulcanelli says about the Dragon, near the end of his book "The dwellings of the Philosophers" " ... while the dragon represents the scaly and volatile mercury, the product of the superficial purification of the subject, the Snake, deprived of its wings, remains the hieroglyph for the common, pure and cleansed mercury." The Dragon seems to be a more volatile version of the snake (i.e. a wingless Dragon) Regards, Peter Kelly. Subject: ACADEMY : Green Dragon Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 From: Michael Srigley Dear Neil, Did Yeats really write of "Raymond Lully and his wife Pernella" which would indeed have been a slip? As far as I can see from my copy of 'Rosa Alchemica', Yeats writes that the narrator bought Lully's 'set of alchemical apparatus' in Paris, and refers correctly to 'Flamel, who with his wife Pernella achieved the elixir'. Where Yeats's mention of Morienus's ascetisism ('hair-cloth'), Avicenna's drunkeness, and Alfarabi's entrancing lute-playing are concerned, his details are confirmed in Langlet du Fresnoy's 'Histoire dela Philosophie Hermetique' (Paris, 1742) 101, 82-4. Here again Yeats is accurate. There is no reference in du Fresnoy's work under Lully of his transformation into a red cock. Jung in 'Alchemical Studies', 258, writes that "the little green dragon ... corresponds to the familiar spirit of the alchemists, the mercurial serpent or 'draco viridis' but provides no source. Best wishes, Michael Subject: ACADEMY : Bibliotheca chimica Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 From: Rafal T. Prinke In Prof. Dana F. Sutton's _Bibliography of On-line Neo-Latin Texts_ at: http://e3.uci.edu/~papyri/bibliography/b.html there is Pierre Borel's bibliography _Bibliotheca chimica, seu catalogus librorum philosophicorum hermeticorum_ listed as available in PDF from the gallica.bn.fr site. The link, however, says it is no longer there - and neither can it be found through searching gallica in the usual way. Did anyone perhaps download it when it was available? Best regards, Rafal Subject: ACADEMY : Green Dragon From: N J Mann Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 Dear Michael, Peter and Rafal, Thank you for the Jung reference, which ties in with the Fulcanelli, and also corresponds to Pernetty's reading of the winged and unwinged dragons. Does this correspond to Urbigerus' undetermined and determined forms of the Green Dragon? When Yeats published 'The Green Helmet and Other Poems' in 1910 he grouped the first 8 poems together under the heading 'Raymond Lully and his wife Pernella', but corrected it in an erratum slip after being alerted to the mistake by Maud Gonne, who referred to "two streets in Paris called one Nicholas Flamel & the other Pernelle" (*The Gonne-Yeats Letters 1893-1938*, 294). He seems to have conceived of his relationship with Maud at this stage in terms of the chaste collaboration of Flamel and Pernella. He was probably more fully immersed in alchemical lore in the 1890s, however, and you are right to remind me that he was probably closer to his sources then, so less likely to have confused separate elements. Unfortunately Gorski's book, *Yeats and Alchemy* (SUNY, 1996), is not terribly good, since he seriously underestimates Yeats's knowledge of primary alchemical sources and refers mainly to secondary texts, such as Hartmann's *Paracelsus* and A. E. Waite's recension of Barrett, *Lives of the Alchemystical Philosophers* (and he seems to confuse Hartmann's book on Boehme with that on Paracelsus). Gorski is stronger on the poetic material, but the argument is weakened by misunderstanding of, for instance, the role of corruption/putrefaction in alchemical practice. With regard to the comparison with *Splendor Solis* he merely footnotes William O'Donnell (*Guide to the Prose Fiction* [1983] with the wrong page) who in turn attributes Yeats's knowledge to hearsay from MacGregor Mathers rather than direct knowledge, which it is clear he had. Similarly, regarding the Green Dragon (and the other figures here), he quotes a footnote from Steven Putzel's *Reconstructing Yeats* (1986) which calls the Pelican "the vessel containing the spiritual distillation" and says that "The 'green dragon' is the Draco virdis [sic] or mercurial serpent, one of the alchemist's familiar spirits" (no doubt drawn from the Jung which Michael refers to, but with implications of witchcraft); this is then passed over without any further comment (Gorski, 94-95). In terms of alchemy, it is therefore very disappointing and quite possibly misleading. Best regards, Neil Subject: ACADEMY : Bibliotheca chimica From: Stanislas Klossowski de Rola Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 Dear Rafal, To be precise the gallica link states that the work is not available for "technical or juridical reasons". However, it must be stated that LENGLET DUFRESNOY in vol 3 of his Histoire de la Philosophie Hermetique cautions that Borel's work (for which he gives two editions: Paris 1654 and Heidelberg 1656) is most imperfect as it is very inaccurate listing more than four thousand works by inexistent authors whose names are gleaned haphazardly. Stanislas Klossowski de Rola Subject: ACADEMY : Bibliotheca chimica From: Susanna Åkerman Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 Dear Stanislas and Rafal, Is Borel an entirely false source or are there some reliable parts? Is Borel's Bibliotheca the source I mention below? The seventeenth century alchemist Jean Vauquelin (1651-1716) mentions that he in Paris 1681 met a certain Des Noyers who had in his hand a silvercoin with gold in the middle that he got from Queen Christina (+ 1689). She had according to Des Noyers a dozen such coins tinged by no one else than Sendivogius himself. Des Noyers seems to be Pierre des Noyers (d. 1693), secretary to the Polish queen Marie-Louise Gonzaga. As Rafal has told me this summer Pierre Borel reproduces a letter where Pierre Des Noyers sketches a biography of Sendivogius dated 1651 in Warsaw, where he makes his controversial claim that Sendivogius got his projection powder from an "Englishman" called Cosmopolita, later identified as Alexander Seton. Christina was ten years old at the now established year of death for Sendivogius, 1636. Pierre des Noyers says in his 1651 letter that Sendivogius was alive in 1646 and his story that was considered correct, when e.g. Borrichius heard of it in Paris 1663, is nowadays also in other circumstances considered false. But does not the circumstances indicate that there might have been some truth in it? Christina may have met Des Noyers in Paris 1656 or in Hamburg 1667 when she was candidating for the Polish throne. Or is Des Noyers' story in Borel entirely a Lûgende to use a phrase of Joachim Telle. Vauquelin's text is printed in Francois Secret, "Astrologi et alchemie au XVIIe siècle." Studi Francesi (60) 1976, ss. 463-479, especially pp.. 470-471. Vauquelins text is now on the net where Des Noyers is described as a rosicrucian, see http://www.levity.com/alchemy/yvteaux.html. Susanna Akerman Subject: ACADEMY : Bibliotheca chimica Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 From: Rafal T. Prinke Dear Stanislas, > To be precise the gallica link states that the work is not > available for "technical or juridical reasons". That's right. I was getting this and other messages with other books, too - and then suddenly they downloaded OK. I had this with Borel's "Antiquities" (which has the famous letter by Des Noyers on Sendivogius) - and then yesterday I downloded it without problems (after trying for 3 months!). > However, it must be stated that LENGLET DUFRESNOY in > vol 3 of his Histoire de la Philosophie Hermetique cautions > that Borel's work (for which he gives two editions: Paris 1654 > and Heidelberg 1656) is most imperfect as it is very inaccurate > listing more than four thousand works by inexistent authors > whose names are gleaned haphazardly. The same is observed by Morhof, who says that Borel must have written it "in sleep". Still - it would be interesting to see it if anyone has that PDF file. Best regards, Rafal Subject: ACADEMY : Green Dragon Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 From: Michael Srigley Dear Neil, Re "the mystery of the Pelican" in 'Rosa Alchemica', I have a few pages on Lear's phrase "Those pelican daughters" in my recently published 'The Probe of Doubt: Scepticism and Illusion in Shakespeare's Plays' (Uppsala, 2000), pp. 228-231). These might be of interest since Lear is mentioned in 'Rosa Alchemica'. If you are interested, let me have your address and I can make copies of the relevant pages and send them. With Best Wishes, Michael |