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Posted: Tue Jun 17th, 2008 02:05 pm |
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I don't have access to original or anything like EEBO, so wonder whether anyone can help with this query.
Is the 1656 book Paracelsus of the supreme mysteries of Nature translated by R. Turner the same as the Archidoxes published in 1660/1661/1663.
I am trying to sort out some of the reprints of Paracelsus. The Askin reprint (which in turn has been reprinted by Kessinger) uses the title Archidoxes, but says that it is a reprint of the 1656 edition which does not use the word Archidoxes. The contents of the Kessinger reprint appears at http://www.amazon.com/Archidoxes-Magic-Theophrastus-Paracelsus/dp/0548280614/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1213707758&sr=8-1
ESTC cataloguing records seem to imply that it is not, but that may just be a lack of recognition.
TIA
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Johann Plattner
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Posted: Tue Jun 17th, 2008 07:04 pm |
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EEBO lists the two titles thus:
Paracelsvs Of the supreme mysteries of nature. Of [brace] the spirits of the planets. Occult philosophy. The magical, sympathetical, and antipathetical cure of wounds and diseases. The mysteries of the twelve signs of the zodiack. / Englished by R. Turner, philomathes. , London, : Printed by J.C. for N. Brook and J. Harison; and are to be sold at their shops at the Angel in Cornhil, and the holy Lamb neer the east-end of Pauls., 1656. [i.e. 1655]
Date: 1655
Bib name / number: Wing (2nd ed., 1994) / B3544
Bib name / number: Thomason / E.1567[2]
No. pages: [20], 158, [6] p. :
Copy from: British Library
Whereby the quoted reprint from Kessinger is identical with the above title from EEBO.
The second title (Archidoxes) is completely different from the first title, both in its contents and length.
Paracelsus his Archidoxes comprised in ten books, disclosing the genuine way of making quintessences, arcanums, magisteries, elixirs, &c. Together with his books of renovation & restauration. Of the tincture of the philsophers. Of the manual of the philosophical medicinal stone, Of the virtues of the members. Of the three principles. And finally his seven books, of the degrees and compositions of receipts, and natural things. / Faithfully and plainly Englished, and published by J.H. Oxon. A book of renovation and restauration. A book of renovation and restauration. Of the tincture of the philosophers. Of the tincture of the philosophers. The manual of the stone of the philosophers. The manual of the stone of the philosophers. Of the virtues of the members. Of the virtues of the members. Of the three first essences. Of the three first essences. The degrees and compositions of receipts and natural things. The degrees and compositions of receipts and natural things. , London : Printed for W.S. and are to be sold by Samuel Thomson at the Bishops Head in Pauls Church-Yard, 1661.
Date: 1661
Bib name / number: Wing (2nd ed., 1994) / B3539
Bib name / number: Thomason / E.2268[1]
No. pages: [8], 158, [2], 111, 108-171, [1] p.
Copy from: British Library
Regards,
Johann
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Posted: Wed Jun 18th, 2008 09:52 am |
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Thank you, Johann.
It looks as though calling the reprints 'Archidoxes' is completely misleading then, as the reprint is not the Archidoxes. Just goes to prove what I was taught in library school - never classify (or in this case catalogue) a book by its title.
Alan
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Posted: Wed Jun 18th, 2008 04:36 pm |
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I am glad that someone is sorting out the different translations of and from Paracelsus. (Of course Sudhoff did some good sorting in his Bibliographica Paracelsica.)
I have access to EEBO and have compared the 1656 book to the 1660. They are entirely different. Both are translations by Turner; however, the prefatory materials are entirely different as are the contents.
The 1656 volume has translations of three separate tracts corresponding to three sections of the subtitle:
B1r- 28 Paracelsus Of the Secrets of Alchymy,; Discovered, in the Nature of the Planets. [Three treatises.]
29-90 Theophrastus Paracelsus Of Occult Philosophy.
91-158. Paracelsus Of the Mysteries of the Signes of the Zodiack.
The De occulta philosophia is a separate essay, reproduced in Sudhoff's volume 14. The other two tracts may belong to the Astronomia Magna (Sudhoff's volume 12).
Hope this helps.Last edited on Wed Jun 18th, 2008 04:42 pm by Tom Willard
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Posted: Wed Jun 18th, 2008 05:08 pm |
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Thank you for that reply. I am not trying to work on anything major w.r.t. the editions. The query was in the context of making a better arrangement of entries in the bibliography and linking the various English editions that I am aware of. I had only just got started when I hit this problem of what appeared to be mis-titled reprints.
Are you sure about the 1660 translator, though. ESTC says "... Faithfully and plainly Englished, and published by, J.H. Oxon.
J.H. = John Harding.
or is the impication that the 'Englishing' and the 'Publishing' are by 2 different people?
>Hope this helps
Yes, it certainly does.
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Posted: Wed Jun 18th, 2008 07:18 pm |
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| Sorry for that slip. The 1660 "Epistle to the Reader" is signed J.H. The prefatory material from Turner is only in 1656.
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Posted: Wed Jun 18th, 2008 07:21 pm |
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TVM.
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Posted: Wed Jun 18th, 2008 11:29 pm |
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Someone is slipping up. Here is another wild goose chase from Kessinger, aided by Amazon:
Amazon offers " Utriusque Cosmi Historia (Paperback) by Robert Fludd (Author)", published by Kessinger on December 30, 2005, and offers it at the discount price of $12.44. This sounds like a great deal, but wait: it's in English and it's only 48 pages long. So what's going on?
It turns out that Kessinger has reprinted chapter 9 of J.B. Craven's "Doctor Robert Fludd (Robertus de Fluctibus) the English Rosicrucian" (1902; Pritchard #793). Meanwhile, Amazon will sell you Kessinger's facsimile reprint of the entire book for $22.08.
It gets slipperier. Kessinger's own web site indicates that "Dr. Robert Fludd" is the author of "Utriusque" and gives the following "description": "THIS 48 PAGE ARTICLE WAS EXTRACTED FROM THE BOOK: Dr. Robert Fludd, by Dr. Robert Fludd."
Caveat emptor etc.Last edited on Wed Jun 18th, 2008 11:32 pm by Tom Willard
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Posted: Thu Jun 19th, 2008 03:32 pm |
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Yes, Kessinger publications are an absolute nightmare, from a bibliographic point of view. K. consistently reprint chapters from books with totally the wrong authors, etc. Their own catalogue has no publication dates - you have to flip to Amazon to pick these up.
The advatange with Amazon is that many items can be examined & the contents page(s) displayed.
There is a seller called 'buy' on eBay at the moment who is selling a lot of Kessinger material, but they only sell to the contiguous USA.
The only way to clarify the various publications is to by everything on alchemy from Kessinger (!), as I think you could count the number of libraries that have their material on the fingers off one hand.
Alan
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