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adammclean
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Posted: Mon May 31st, 2010 06:08 pm |
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Can anyone translate this short sentence from an engraving in a work of Basil Valentine ?
[Sun] [Moon] und [Mars] mit [Jupiter] Tagen [Saturn] muss die garne fragen Stellt [Mercury] recht dem Wind. So wirdt gefangen Fraw [Venus] Kindt.
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Paul Ferguson
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Posted: Mon May 31st, 2010 06:57 pm |
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adammclean wrote:
Can anyone translate this short sentence from an engraving in a work of Basil Valentine ?
[Sun] [Moon] und [Mars] mit [Jupiter] Tagen [Saturn] muss die garne fragen Stellt [Mercury] recht dem Wind. So wirdt gefangen Fraw [Venus] Kindt.
I read it as a hunting analogy, thus:
[Sun] [Moon] und [Mars] mit [Jupiter] Jagen
[Saturn] muss die garne tragen
Stellt [Mercury] nach recht dem Windt
So wirdt gefangen Fraw [Venus] Kindt.
My very rough first effort:
The Sun, the Moon and Mars are hunting with Jupiter,
Saturn must drag the snares.
If Mercury heads straight towards the wind
So will Lady Venus's child be caught.
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Alexander Guthrie Stewart
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Posted: Mon May 31st, 2010 09:28 pm |
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| The three black animals look like dogs to me, and the brown ones in the middle look like hares. Any symbolism with that or does it just re-inforce the hunting poetry?
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Paul Ferguson
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Posted: Tue Jun 1st, 2010 08:22 pm |
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Alexander Guthrie Stewart wrote:
The three black animals look like dogs to me, and the brown ones in the middle look like hares. Any symbolism with that or does it just re-inforce the hunting poetry?
Quite a lot on the three hares motif on the web, see here:
http://www.threehares.net/
"The theory of the Ancients that the hare was hermaphroditic and could procreate without a mate led to the belief that it could give birth to young without loss of virginity." Significant in an alchemical context?
Also in Wiki, with an interesting distribution map:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_hares
And here, under 'Widecombe in the Moor'.
http://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/bshm/zingaz/W.html
Radio interview with Dr. Tom Greeves:
http://cropfm.at/past_shows.htm
Interesting French blog:
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Alexander Guthrie Stewart
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Posted: Tue Jun 1st, 2010 09:47 pm |
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| I don't know much about late 16th/ 17th century alchemy, but I wonder if the hare symbolism would be a relic from the days when they said all you needed was mercury to make the elixir.
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Johann Plattner
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Posted: Mon Jun 7th, 2010 02:27 pm |
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Here's slighty a different translation:
Sonne] [Mond] und [Mars] mit [Jupiter] jagen]
[Saturn] muß die Garne tragen]
stellt [Merkur] recht nach dem Wind]
so wirdt gefangen Frau [Venus] Kind.]
[Sun] [Moon] and [Mars] are hunting with [Jupiter]
[Saturn] has to carry the yarns
put [Mercury] rightly to the wind
thus is caught lady [Venus] child
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Carl Lavoie
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Posted: Thu Oct 10th, 2013 03:46 am |
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