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adammclean
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Posted: Fri Nov 18th, 2011 02:25 pm |
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I have just put up a complete set of the illuminations from the Munich version of the Buch der heiligen Dreifaltigkeit.
http://www.alchemywebsite.com/imagery_buch_der_heiligen_dreifaltigkeit.html
These are really wonderful and striking images. It is sad that there is no substantial study in English of this group of manuscripts. From what I have read, the original text created in 1410-1419 was revised around about 1440. The Munich version dates to some time after 1467.Last edited on Fri Nov 18th, 2011 02:26 pm by adammclean
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Carl Lavoie
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Posted: Fri Nov 18th, 2011 05:08 pm |
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Do every early manuscript of The Book of the Holy Trinity depict St. Francis on the Alverne, or is it only found in certain versions ? (Does it originate from a Franciscan milieu ?)
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Paul Ferguson
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Posted: Fri Nov 18th, 2011 10:47 pm |
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Carl Lavoie wrote:
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Do every early manuscript of The Book of the Holy Trinity depict St. Francis on the Alverne, or is it only found in certain versions ? (Does it originate from a Franciscan milieu ?)
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It has been attributed to Ulmannus, a Franciscan Spiritual:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buch_der_heiligen_Dreifaltigkeit
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Alexander Guthrie Stewart
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Posted: Mon Nov 21st, 2011 01:08 am |
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Thats great, thank you. I've been wondering what was so special about the illustrations, since all you usually see is a couple of them in small, grainy black and white pictures in general books on alchemy.
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Carl Lavoie
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Posted: Tue Nov 22nd, 2011 05:25 am |
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Yes Paul, that seems to be the case.
http://www.jstor.org/pss/20655760
The title of the third treatise in Heildelberg Cod. Pal. Germ. 843 (stripped of its pictures ) too read ‘Liber Trinitatis Fratis Almanni Ordinis Minoris’.
http://diglit.ub.uni-heidelberg.de/diglit/cpg843/0137?sid=6a7a68cc0c97ba7983a7f13bf58b2816
But, are the other early manuscript versions of the Buch der heiligen Dreifaltigkeit also depicting St. Francis and the seraph (folio 166 v.)? Van Lennep (1985, p.72), who had handled a few copies, does seem to say that the scene is somewhat of an oddity, as he recall seeing this image only in the Nuremberg manuscript (although he refers later to the Munich one) :
Do we have other ‘illuminated’ versions available (digitized), beside the one of Munich ? Would a copy made by someone of a different affiliation show, say, Catherine of Sienna instead? Or omit this final scene altogether?
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Johann Plattner
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Posted: Tue Nov 22nd, 2011 09:40 am |
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Carl Lavoie wrote: .Do we have other ‘illuminated’ versions available (digitized), beside the one of Munich ? Would a copy made by someone of a different affiliation show, say, Catherine of Sienna instead? Or omit this final scene altogether?
Joachim Telle put together the known Mss. I didn't investigate the given sources, but I think there could be found additional 'illuminated' versions among them.
http://www.handschriftencensus.de/werke/2246
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Posted: Tue Nov 22nd, 2011 11:42 am |
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Carl Lavoie wrote:
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Yes Paul, that seems to be the case.
http://www.jstor.org/pss/20655760
The title of the third treatise in Heildelberg Cod. Pal. Germ. 843 (stripped of its pictures) too read ‘Liber Trinitatis Fratis Almanni Ordinis Minoris’.
http://diglit.ub.uni-heidelberg.de/diglit/cpg843/0137?sid=6a7a68cc0c97ba7983a7f13bf58b2816
But, are the other early manuscript versions of the Buch der heiligen Dreifaltigkeit also depicting St. Francis and the seraph (folio 166 v.)? Van Lennep (1985, p.72), who had handled a few copies, does seem to say that the scene is somewhat of an oddity, as he recall seeing this image only in the Nuremberg manuscript (although he refers later to the Munich one) :
Do we have other ‘illuminated’ versions available (digitized), beside the one of Munich ? Would a copy made by someone of a different affiliation show, say, Catherine of Sienna instead? Or omit this final scene altogether?
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The Berlin MS seems to have the stigmatization also:
http://www.bildindex.de/obj20514455.html#|home
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Posted: Fri Sep 6th, 2013 06:10 am |
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adammclean wrote:
I have just put up a complete set of the illuminations from the Munich version of the Buch der heiligen Dreifaltigkeit.
http://www.alchemywebsite.com/imagery_buch_der_heiligen_dreifaltigkeit.html
These are really wonderful and striking images. It is sad that there is no substantial study in English of this group of manuscripts. From what I have read, the original text created in 1410-1419 was revised around about 1440. The Munich version dates to some time after 1467.
Apparently Matthias Bauer has set some parts of this book to music. Doesn't seem to have been recorded:
http://www.kulturfund.org/index.php/Bauer,_%22Das_Buch_der_heiligen_Dreifaltigkeit%22
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