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Inner alchemy archives - Philosophical DeathBack to alchemy forum page . Back to Inner alchemy archive.From: Steve Kalec Date: Wed, 16 Jul 1997 To: Andre Le Sage > Would you also agree that these three distillations should be performed at > the same time? In my understanding the Alchemical transmutations occur during and through the projections of the unconscious onto the experiment. At least an inner attunement should be had with one's outer distillation. The inner can be performed before and after. It can be performed during also. I myself have had wonderful experiences in inner practice after the outer experiment. I have also had projection during my passive attunement with the outer experiment. Many a times beautiful experiences were realized well after the outer experiment as in the borderline states in my sleep an dreams. > But in all your correspondence the idea of Death or as you put it > "Dare to Die", is surely for us the most important, is not the Lady Sophia > 'Our Lady' the Goddess that bestows wisdom, and might she also > bestow Death, is this the Philosophical death of Alchemy from which, > if we are fortunate, she pulls us from and thereby supplying Gnosis. > "ET IN ARCADIA EGO" I think is the popular phrase, Only in death > can one find The Garden of Gold Apples. Beautifully said. Yes, the deliciously tempting Red Apples of Desire were our passports to the realization of matter down the tree of Knowledge in the Garden of Eden. Through this death the Golden Apples of the Garden of the Hesperides are found. The Golden Apples that give immortality to the gods. The Golden apples of realization of the Spiritual Light become our passport up the Tree of life. > Death and rebirth are a familiar concept to all here, the question is >how real is the experience? Yes , I am very certain that the concept is very familiar and well understood by the members of this forum. I really hope that my mention of it is not being understood as an expression of some kind of knowledge on my part. The only real knowledge I posses is the knowledge of my awesome ignorance . As to how real is the experience of the Philosophical death I can only speak for myself. We each have our own Interior and Psychic life and I believe that we each encounter the mystical death in our own way, in our own time and in our own degree. I believe that we each die a little in our psychology every day however everyone of us passes through a greater Dark Night of the Soul at least once in our lifetime. Again please accept that I know that the concept is well familiar to all here. How real is the experience ? In sever cases very real. There are the most unfortunate souls who never come out of it in this incarnation. There are those who completely lose their souls as the Zombies of the Haitian cults of Voodoo. They are the real living dead, who's objective consciousness is lost and drowned in the collective unconscious and they are the truly damned. In my 30th year I have found my Garden of Gethseman. I was in my 9th degree of the A.M.O.R.C teachings and I remember being very overwhelmed by some of the higher principles being revealed. During that period a darkness began to descend upon me. Through time, dark clouds were hiding the Sun in my inner sky. Gloomy and melancholy became my life. My whistling of favorite tunes ceased, in fact all music disappeared. Something in me had left me, a part of me was no longer there. My joyous happy self was no longer. Then fear started encircling me, I was actually afraid of myself. I began to feel very evil and demonic thoughts came into my mind. I fought them but they kept coming back stronger. I truly feared that I would loose control of myself. I was never a drug user nor have I abused myself in other ways, my wife couldn't understand what was happening to me and she shared my suffering. Many times I would hide from the world and myself by sleeping. I was down in my hell. I was dead to what I used to be. How real was this experience ? Like I say, I can only speak for myself and to me it was very real. I fell into a deep depression and the whole process lasted a little over a year. Dawn did break almost suddenly and I remember the glorious day. The phrase " And he leadeth me in the path of Righteousness for His name's sake " of the 23rd Psalm was what triggered the Golden Dawn. We all have a key, we all have a truth to realize. To me that was the most beautiful and potent of all magic that I needed exactly at the time. I kept repeating the whole Psalm over and over and every time I felt better and my life was getting brighter with the grace that was descending over me and dissipating the clouds. The lost part of me was back. Music and the whistling tunes were back and I thanked the God of my heart for not abandoning me. I returned to my studies on a new cycle with a greater appreciation and a praise for the inner light which I had promised to ever kindle, treasure and nurture always. I had crossed the valley of the shadow of death . I dared here to reveal a little of myself on the personal note. This was the best way that I could express and answer in my own experience as to " How real is the experience " ? Please forgive me that this came out so lengthy a message. Best Regards, Steve Kalec From: Andre Le Sage Date: Wed, 16 Jul 1997 Steve > In my understanding the Alchemical transmutations occur during > and through the projections of the unconscious onto the experiment. > At least an inner attunement should be had with one's outer distillation. I think it is important not to confuse Distillation with Transmutation or Projection. It is my understanding that these Distillations in the result ability to Project, the Projection of our inner Spirit or Soul (as the result of inner Distillation) into the result of our Outer distillations is the final operation that produces the Stone of Philosophy or the Tincture. So yes I would agree that Transmutation of the inner Soul is part of that inner distillation and to some extent there is a Physical Transmutation associated with the other Distillations, but Transmutation of Base metals and the like are only accomplished with the completed Stone. I did not mean to suggest that theses three things are experienced at the same time or that one would be in a state of Gnosis while attempting to transfer Vitriol into a retort! That would never do. It would be more like cooking three meals at the same time where perhaps the by-products of one were needed for the others and only after one was at a certain stage would we have the "experience" to further the others. But like any good cook all would be ready on the table together but we might not fetch them from the kitchen at the same time but together they would form one feast, a feast fit for a King. > > Death and rebirth are a familiar concept to all here, the question is > >how real is the experience? > I really hope that my mention of it is not being > understood as an expression of some kind of knowledge on my part. The > only real knowledge I posses is the knowledge of my awesome ignorance . You and me both. > How real is the experience ? In sever cases very real. There are > the most unfortunate souls who never come out of it in this incarnation. It is possible to find cloaked accounts of the moment of Gnosis spread throughout the Alchemical writings, allusions to sweet sents etc. Although easy missed once recognized they do bear a strikingly similar tone. This leads me to the conclusion that the final Gnosis is accompanied with the very real experience of Death. We have to make the leap of Faith and in so doing face Death but once it is faced and behind us it does not have to be faced again. > In my 30th year I have found my Garden of Gethseman. I was in > my 9th degree of the A.M.O.R.C teachings and I remember being very > overwhelmed by some of the higher principles being revealed. During > that period a darkness began to descend upon me........ I had crossed >the valley of the shadow of death . I have experienced similar to that described above but do not be surprised if our Death causes your wife to call the paramedic, it will be proceeded by total fear and the sense of someone standing behind you, you turn it is death, but death becomes a beautiful Lady, Our Lady, twice is, Pull me from the mud you cry and she lifts you to greet the Morning Star, etc etc. A Date: Wed, 16 Jul 1997 From: Belle Hall Please allow me to concur with what Steve expresses so clearly. While so much of the inner alchemical study is theory and historical philosophy, the truth is that inner alchemy can occur on a personal level. My journey has lead me to more than one deep episode of melancholy, a virtual blackness. My recent studies have lead me to comparing and contrasting the mythos of christianity, islam, hindi and buddhism which have so far shown me remarkable similarities. There is in each reference to shadow. I was most uncomfortable when reading about nirvana, the concept of anonymous void. It was difficult for me to comprehend as a western female why anyone would want to "achieve" nothingness?To me that seems blackness forever. It was when I continued to study and realized that that "bodhisattva" represents the enlightened one "the one who forgoes nirvana in order to save others" that perhaps the death was necessary to restore light even inner light. I perhaps am a slower learner than Steve because I have had more than one inner death miraculously emerging each time. The point here being that with the very real conclusion of one shadow is a clear, bright opening ahead that is not feared, but revered.I do not know if this is necessary for each alchemist, but it seems true for me. Peace, Belle Hall Date: Wed, 16 Jul 1997 From: Bernard Bovasso > I dared here to reveal a little of myself on the personal note. This was > the best way that I could express and answer in my own experience as > to " How real is the experience " ? Dear Steve: Thank you for sharing that. It is a very valuable statement. Sincerely, Bernard |